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Updated draft agenda for Connect-WG @ RIPE 70
by Florence Lavroff 16 Apr '15

16 Apr '15

Dear friends of Connect-WG, Thanks for your input. I am happy to share with you an updated draft agenda for our session on Wednesday, May, 13th from 11:00 to 12.30 : 1. Opening, Welcome 2. Appoint scribe, Agenda bashing (2 min) 3. Minutes from RIPE69 (3 min) 4. Update on IX member list schema (Nick Hilliard and Elisa Jasinska) (10 min) 5. European IXP Topography (Kurt Erik Lindqvist and John Souter) (10 min) 6. Update on CDN best practices (Florence Lavroff and Maurice Dean) (10 min) 7. Open-IX – Building a new community event (Keith Mitchell) (10 min) 8. IXPs in developing markets a. Euro-IX support programs – Bijal Sanghani (10 min) b. ISOC IXP development program – Jane Coffin (10 min) c. African innovation - Andrew Owen (10 min) *to be confirmed* d. Short panel session with the presenters (10 min) 9. Feedback: the good, the bad and the ugly (5 min) 10. Close Best regards, Florence and Remco Connect-WG Co-chairs -- Florence Lavroff / lavroff(a)google.com / +31 20 504 5474 / +31 6 11 01 55 80 Peering and Content Distribution / Google EMEA

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Draft agenda for Connect-WG @ RIPE 70 and call for presentations
by Florence Lavroff 13 Apr '15

13 Apr '15

Dear friends of Connect-WG, Here’s the draft agenda for our session on May, 11th at 11:00 : 1. Opening, Welcome 2. Agenda bashing 3. Minutes from RIPE69 4. Update on IX member list schema (Nick Hilliard and Elisa Jasinska) 5. Update on CDN best practices (Florence Lavroff and Maurice Dean) 6. Open-IX – Building a new community event (Keith Mitchell) 7. IXPs in developing markets a. Euro-IX twinning program – Bijal Sanghani b. ISOC IXP development program – Jane Coffin c. TBC: experiences in providing help to new IXPs d. TBC: experiences in receiving help as a new IXP e. Short panel session with the presenters 8. Feedback: the good, the bad and the ugly 9. Close We’re pretty happy with the way the agenda is shaping up, but would much welcome any additional topics, especially on the technical side. You might want to share experiences on implementing 100G interconnection, for example … If you have a suggestion for a topic, an idea or a ready-to-go presentation, please let us know and we’ll be happy to support you. Best regards, Florence and Remco Connect-WG Co-chairs -- Florence Lavroff / lavroff(a)google.com / +31 20 504 5474 / +31 6 11 01 55 80 Peering and Content Distribution / Google EMEA

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Minutes from last meeting and call for presentations
by Remco Van Mook 17 Mar '15

17 Mar '15

Dear connect-wg friends, Time flies, and it’s only 8 weeks before we meet again in lovely Amsterdam! We’re working on the agenda for the next session which will again be on Wednesday at 11AM: if you have anything you’d like to present (or know somebody who should be presenting), please drop us a note at connect-wg-chairs(a)ripe.net<mailto:connect-wg-chairs@ripe.net> Also, please find below the draft minutes of the previous meeting - please have a look and let us know any comments. Kind regards, Remco and Florence Connect-WG Co-chairs Draft minutes from RIPE 69: -------- Connect WG Wednesday 5 November 2014 0. Opening and Welcome [1 mins] Co-chair Remco van Mook welcomed attendees. Appoint scribe, Agenda Bashing [5 mins] Remco thanked the scribe, chat monitor and tech support. He announced that Nick Hilliard wouldn’t be presenting agenda point 8. He asked if anyone had any AOBs to add to the agenda; there were no comments. 2. Working Group Charter Discussion [15 mins] Remco said there was rough consensus on the WG’s charter that was drafted at the BoF during RIPE 68 but that it needed to be polished. He asked for comments on the charter; there were none. Remco asked for comments on the proposed chairing process of the WG. Will Hargrave, LONAP, said he supported the suggested process. Remco asked that he and co-chair Florence be subscribed to the RIPE Working Group Chair mailing list. Remco announced that the WG charter and chair selection process was agreed. 3. Cooperating with Cooperation WG [10 mins] 4. Social Side of Internet Interconnection [15 mins] Uta Meier-Hahn The presentation is available at: https://ripe69.ripe.net/presentations/60-Pra%CC%88sentation-Social-side-of-… Andy Davidson, LONAP and Allegro Networks / IIX, commented that it the common belief is that the way you get around inherent weaknesses in the system is to just build more peering, more Internet, etc. The other motivation was about control: the more interconnection there is, people tend to believe it’s harder for any one system to take control. In order for the Internet to be open, it needs to be well peered. There were no further questions 5. IP Interconnection for Voice [15 mins] Martin John The presentation is available at: https://ripe69.ripe.net/presentations/52-aql_RIPE_69.pdf Maurice Deen, Facebook Inc., asked what was needed from interconnect facilities/IXPs to support voice and SMS traffic. Martin replied that it was about having good peering and good quality of service. SMS traffic is an over-the-top application that they run and voice is about having good peering, low latency/jitter so the more peering, the better service for the customer. Maurice asked if they were not need of QOE monitoring from IXPs. Martin said yes, the more monitoring, statistical data, the better. 6. CDN Best Practices [15 mins] Maurice Dean and Florence Lavroff The presentation is available at: https://ripe69.ripe.net/presentations/100-Working-with-CDNs-towards-BCP..pdf Jim Reid, RTFM, said having CDN best practices was a great idea and more information is needed about this. He asked if there is a BCP about it and how it would be published. He wondered whether it would be a RIPE document, IETF RFC or just a joint statement and let the ISP figure it out. Maurice said he wasn’t as familiar with RIPE’s processes with BCPs as he was with NANOG’s and there is a defined process there but he would love input on how to do this in the RIPE community. Jim replied that it’s easy with the RIPE community, you just have it published. The best thing is to have a working group declare consensus but there’s not a defined process, it’s light weight. It could be a working document and then you could have a more elaborate BCOP if you’re putting it through NANOG or other channels. Maurice thanked Jim for his input and said they could discuss it later. He added that this presentation was to garner interest. Joe Provo, speaking as himself, said that a CDN BCP would be a useful work product for this new working group. He added that many of the suggested BCOPs are just good peering practice so it might be just a good working document as well as on specific CDN usage. Joe also asked if they could encourage a standardised format for reporting across different parties because the external interfaces for reporting are currently opaque. Florence replied that that is something they could aim for in the long-term. She added that Google has documentation and hints for best practices with GC partners on its portal. Nina Bergason, Netflix, said she supported the proposal and it should be further discussed. She asked that the document go both ways (ISPs and CDNs). She added that communication between ISPs and CDNs is very important, there are things CDNs can do to work together better with ISPs. She added that Netflix has good information on their website on how to make the site work well in a network but awareness is low so there is work to do. Maurice replied that is a bilateral proposal with a goal to reach a common understanding of best practices and he’s interested in input on how that can be achieved Piotr Wydrych, AGH University of Science and Technology, asked to what extent they would cover exchange of info on topology between ISPs and CDNS. If it’s the case, Piotr would like to raise awareness of ALT O protocol, standardised at IETF in September. Protocol tries to extract info about topology and passes it to 3rd party to align overlay to underlay topology. He added that AS hop number doesn’t have to be a metric, it’s a flexible protocol. Andy Davidson commented that there may be too much reliance on DNS to solve the problem of traffic going to the wrong place and perhaps a generic page or cookie might be a better solution. Maurice said DNS resolver was just an example and that it simple. most are far more advanced. How we can add further signals is in scope. Florence added, re: DNS, important for CDN, do not map content to the end user with DNS but with BGP. Florian Streibelt, Technical University Berlin, said that the DNS extension mentioned earlier is where you put the client’s address into a DNS request and many CDNs so like the idea of doing HTTP requests and redirects because of old certificates and other things. They really want to have the first contact as a redirect by DNS, so that’s why they often use it. 7. Euro-IX & IX-F [5 mins] Bijal Sanghani The presentation is available at: https://ripe69.ripe.net/presentations/102-connect-wg-ripe69.pdf Remco jokingly asked what an IXP is and to explain it in four pages. Bijal said it wasn’t as simple. 8. The Update Session [5 mins] EURO-IX BCP Elisa Jasinska, netflix [There was no presentation available for download] Job Snijders, NTT, said the schema looks very useful and thanked Elisa and Nick for putting effort into it. He added that it looked complete and contains exactly the data he would use to automate what he currently scrapes using other means. From the peering DB side, he said he’d like to see if they could expose the data according to the same schema, maybe sooner than v2 and just piggy back on the current data model. He said he’d see what he could do to help. Elisa replied that her and Bijal had discussed how Euro-IX could use the same format for importing the data back which would reinforce the schema and the usability of it. Vesna Manojlovic, RIPE NCC, said she was grateful for this work and that they have a project called open IP maps which is crowd sourcing geolocation information for Internet infrastructure and this would be really useful information to import into their data set. 9. Open Mic and Feedback [4 mins] Remco asked for feedback on the agenda format. Carsten Schiefner, DENIC, said he liked Uta’s presentation because it was an outlook beyond the usual parameter. He said it would be good to have those kinds of presentations in future, at least one per meeting. Remco said if there are any other suggestions for out of the box presentations to let them know and they’ll see what they could do. Jim Reid said the agenda for the working group looked good. Remco thanked the attendees and closed the session. This email is from Equinix (EMEA) B.V. or one of its associated companies in the territory from where this email has been sent. 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Agenda for tomorrow
by Remco Van Mook 04 Nov '14

04 Nov '14

Dear colleagues, below is the revised agenda for the working group session tomorrow. If you have any (very short!) presentation you’d like to add, please let me know ASAP. If you’re presenting, please use the meeting website to upload your presentation BEFORE the session tomorrow! Somewhat final agenda for the Connect WG, RIPE69, November 5 11:00-12:30 0. Opening and welcome (1 min) 1. Appoint scribe, Agenda bashing (5 min) 2. Working Group Charter Discussion (10 min) 3. (S)electing WG chairs (5 min) 4. Social Side of Internet Interconnection (15 min) - Uta Meier-Hahn 5. IP interconnection for Voice (15 min) - Martin John 6. CDN Best Practices (15 min) - Maurice Dean and Florence Lavroff 7. Euro-IX & IX-F (5 min) - Bijal Sanghani 8. Gambia IXP update (5 min) - Nick Hilliard 8. IXP Member list API (5 min) - Elisa Jasinska 9. Open mic and feedback (4 min) 10. Closing and lunchtime Hope to see you all tomorrow at 11 in the Side Room! Kind regards, Florence and Remco Remco van Mook Director of Interconnection, EMEA & Global Product Director Internet Exchanges EQUINIX | 80 Cheapside, London, EC2V 6EE, United Kingdom E remco(a)equinix.com<mailto:remco@equinix.com> | T +31-6-11356365 This email is from Equinix (EMEA) B.V. or one of its associated companies in the territory from where this email has been sent. This email, and any files transmitted with it, contains information which is confidential, is solely for the use of the intended recipient and may be legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this email immediately. Equinix (EMEA) B.V.. Registered Office: Luttenbergweg 4, 1101 EC Amsterdam-Zuidoost, The Netherlands. Registered in The Netherlands No. 57577889.

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Regarding connect-bof mailing list
by Remco Van Mook 23 Oct '14

23 Oct '14

Hi all, There seems to be a bit of confusion as all of you have probably received an automated notification earlier today that you were no longer subscribed to the connect-bof mailing list. The reason this happened is because the BoF ceased to exist and the mailing list will be archived. All activity has moved over to the connect working group, and the connect-wg mailing list. As per my welcome email, please update filters where applicable or unsubscribe if you’re no longer interested. Kind regards, Remco This email is from Equinix (EMEA) B.V. or one of its associated companies in the territory from where this email has been sent. This email, and any files transmitted with it, contains information which is confidential, is solely for the use of the intended recipient and may be legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this email immediately. Equinix (EMEA) B.V.. Registered Office: Luttenbergweg 4, 1101 EC Amsterdam-Zuidoost, The Netherlands. Registered in The Netherlands No. 57577889.

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Draft agenda for RIPE 69
by Remco Van Mook 23 Oct '14

23 Oct '14

Dear all, Please find below the draft agenda for RIPE 69. If you’re interested in providing input for the update session, please get in touch with us at connect-wg-chairs(a)ripe.net. Kind regards, Remco and Florence Draft agenda for the Connect WG, RIPE69, November 5 11:00-12:30 0. Opening and welcome (1 min) 1. Appoint scribe, Agenda bashing (5 min) 2. Working Group Charter Discussion (15 min) 3. Cooperating with Cooperation WG (10 min) 4. Social Side of Internet Interconnection (15 min) - Uta Meier-Hahn 5. IP interconnection for Voice (15 min) - Adam Beaumont 6. CDN Best Practices (15 min) - Maurice Dean and Florence Lavroff 7. Euro-IX & IX-F (5 min) - Bijal Sanghani 8. The update session (5 min) - Mystery Guest 9. Open mic and feedback (4 min) 10. Closing and lunchtime Remco van Mook Director of Interconnection, EMEA & Global Product Manager Internet Exchanges EQUINIX | 80 Cheapside, London, EC2V 6EE, United Kingdom E remco(a)equinix.com<mailto:remco@equinix.com> | T +31 6 1135 6365 HOW ARE WE DOING?<http://www.customersat3.com/csc/equinix> Please click here to Tell Equinix - We're Listening Equinix.co.uk<http://www.equinix.co.uk/> | Twitter<https://twitter.com/equinix> | LinkedIn<http://www.linkedin.com/company/equinix> | Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/Equinix> | YouTube<http://www.youtube.com/user/equinixvideos> This email is from Equinix (EMEA) B.V. or one of its associated companies in the territory from where this email has been sent. This email, and any files transmitted with it, contains information which is confidential, is solely for the use of the intended recipient and may be legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this email immediately. Equinix (EMEA) B.V.. Registered Office: Luttenbergweg 4, 1101 EC Amsterdam-Zuidoost, The Netherlands. Registered in The Netherlands No. 57577889.

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Welcome to connect-wg!
by Remco Van Mook 20 Oct '14

20 Oct '14

Dear friends on the connect-bof mailing list, for those of you who followed the proceedings during RIPE 68, it will come as no surprise that the Connect BOF session led to the adoption by the plenary of the new Connect Working Group. As such, we’re being given all the artefacts that come with a working group, such as presence on the RIPE website and, of course, a mailing list. In order to keep surprises to a minimum, we’ve decided to simply rename the connect BOF list to the Connect WG mailing list and keep all subscribers to the old list. If you did have an interest in the Connect BOF but are for some reason not interested in joining the discussion within the Connect Working Group, this is the time to unsubscribe and we apologise for the inconvenience. You can find links to do so at the bottom of this email. With that out of the way, here’s a reminder of the current charter of the Connect Working group: The Working Group will: •Facilitate discussions about interconnect for Internet purposes, covering Layer 1-8 •Raise awareness in the community about Interconnection and the role this plays for the Global Internet •Educate policymakers/regulation in how the interconnects works •Act as knowledge-base for interconnect related questions The activities of the working group to achieve the goals are, without being exhaustive: •Present and discuss topics related to IP interconnections at the RIPE Working Groups Meetings •Discuss topics related to IP Interconnections on the working-group mailing list •Monitor and take part in discussions in related working groups - like the cooperation wg and the routing wg •Actively seek to take part in IP interconnection discussions taking place outside of the community We’ve applied for a 90-minute slot at the next RIPE meeting in November in London, and we’ll be sending out a draft agenda for that session this week. If you would like to present, please send us an email at <connect-wg-chairs(a)ripe.net<mailto:connect-chairs@ripe.net>> To be very clear about the nature of the presentations we are looking for. We are explicitly NOT looking for any ‘up-and-to-the-right’ update presentations, product presentations or sales pitches. We do have some ideas how to integrate short updates into the schedule but we’re going to keep that a secret for now :) Thank you all for being part of the Connect Working Group and we hope to see you in London! Florence Lavroff and Remco van Mook - Link to the video of the Plenary @ RIPE68: https://ripe68.ripe.net/archives/video/259 - Link to the Connect BOF @ RIPE68: https://ripe68.ripe.net/archives/#Thursday - Link to the mailing list: http://www.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/connect-wg/ - Link to the working group page with description and charter: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/groups/wg/connect This email is from Equinix (EMEA) B.V. or one of its associated companies in the territory from where this email has been sent. This email, and any files transmitted with it, contains information which is confidential, is solely for the use of the intended recipient and may be legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this email immediately. Equinix (EMEA) B.V.. Registered Office: Luttenbergweg 4, 1101 EC Amsterdam-Zuidoost, The Netherlands. Registered in The Netherlands No. 57577889.

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