Fwd: [Community-Discuss] Participate in AFRINIC’s webinar on “Public Persecution vs. Constructive Criticism on AFRINIC mailing lists”
Dear TF, AFRINIC has scheduled a webinar "to discuss measures to foster a safe and all-inclusive environment" next Thursday following the recent application of its Code of Conduct: https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2021-February/003969.h... It could be an interesting discussion that helps us improve our own understanding of the tasks we have taken on. Kind regards, Leo ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: AFRINIC Communication <comms@afrinic.net> Date: Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 2:07 AM Subject: [Community-Discuss] Participate in AFRINIC’s webinar on “Public Persecution vs. Constructive Criticism on AFRINIC mailing lists” To: <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Dear Community members, AFRINIC would like to invite you to an upcoming webinar to consult with its community on the topic of ‘’Public Persecution vs. Constructive Criticism on AFRINIC mailing lists”, scheduled on Thursday 4 March 2021. After several concerns raised from community members on the virulence of exchanges on AFRINIC mailing lists, AFRINIC had to make very difficult decisions regarding how to best apply the community code of conduct to the public mailing lists in an attempt to safeguard the community from being subject to these inappropriate behaviours while allowing people to express thoughts and critics freely. https://afrinic.net/code AFRINIC does not take such decisions lightly and is in need of guidance from the community on the best way moving forward on dealing with the cases that clearly mix public harassment with useful feedback. Community members are invited to discuss measures to foster a safe and all-inclusive environment where community members, volunteers as well as AFRINIC staff feel supported and comfortable serving this community and exchanging ideas without the fear of being publicly harassed and personally attacked. It is key that we as a community have clear guidelines that allow us to prevent constructive criticism from turning into public persecution and slander. This is key to the creation of a safe and dynamic environment where opinions and ideas can flow freely and openly without fear of attack., Time: • 10:00 - 12:00 UTC (Ghana, Côte D'Ivoire) • 11:00 - 13:00 UTC WAT (Nigeria, Cameroon) • 14:00 - 16:00 UTC SAST (South Africa, Eswatini, Lesotho) • 15:00 - 17:00 UTC EAT (Kenya, Uganda) • 16:00 - 18:00 GST (Mauritius, Seychelles) Language: English Target: AFRINIC community members and any other person interested in how AFRINIC manages mailing lists Register in advance for this meeting: https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZwpduquqjkvE9Zjjv74MC33wGJHRcea2nR... After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the meeting. AFRINIC Stakeholder Engagement Team _______________________________________________ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
Leo, That looks very interesting. I had hoped to attend, but unfortunately something has cropped up that I can't get out of. Hopefully someone from the team will be able to attend? Brian Brian Nisbet Service Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 ________________________________ From: coc-tf <coc-tf-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Leo Vegoda <leo@vegoda.org> Sent: Wednesday 24 February 2021 18:48 To: coc-tf@ripe.net <coc-tf@ripe.net> Subject: [coc-tf] Fwd: [Community-Discuss] Participate in AFRINIC’s webinar on “Public Persecution vs. Constructive Criticism on AFRINIC mailing lists” CAUTION[External]: This email originated from outside of the organisation. Do not click on links or open the attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. Dear TF, AFRINIC has scheduled a webinar "to discuss measures to foster a safe and all-inclusive environment" next Thursday following the recent application of its Code of Conduct: https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.afri... It could be an interesting discussion that helps us improve our own understanding of the tasks we have taken on. Kind regards, Leo ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: AFRINIC Communication <comms@afrinic.net> Date: Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 2:07 AM Subject: [Community-Discuss] Participate in AFRINIC’s webinar on “Public Persecution vs. Constructive Criticism on AFRINIC mailing lists” To: <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Dear Community members, AFRINIC would like to invite you to an upcoming webinar to consult with its community on the topic of ‘’Public Persecution vs. Constructive Criticism on AFRINIC mailing lists”, scheduled on Thursday 4 March 2021. After several concerns raised from community members on the virulence of exchanges on AFRINIC mailing lists, AFRINIC had to make very difficult decisions regarding how to best apply the community code of conduct to the public mailing lists in an attempt to safeguard the community from being subject to these inappropriate behaviours while allowing people to express thoughts and critics freely. https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fafrinic.ne... AFRINIC does not take such decisions lightly and is in need of guidance from the community on the best way moving forward on dealing with the cases that clearly mix public harassment with useful feedback. Community members are invited to discuss measures to foster a safe and all-inclusive environment where community members, volunteers as well as AFRINIC staff feel supported and comfortable serving this community and exchanging ideas without the fear of being publicly harassed and personally attacked. It is key that we as a community have clear guidelines that allow us to prevent constructive criticism from turning into public persecution and slander. This is key to the creation of a safe and dynamic environment where opinions and ideas can flow freely and openly without fear of attack., Time: • 10:00 - 12:00 UTC (Ghana, Côte D'Ivoire) • 11:00 - 13:00 UTC WAT (Nigeria, Cameroon) • 14:00 - 16:00 UTC SAST (South Africa, Eswatini, Lesotho) • 15:00 - 17:00 UTC EAT (Kenya, Uganda) • 16:00 - 18:00 GST (Mauritius, Seychelles) Language: English Target: AFRINIC community members and any other person interested in how AFRINIC manages mailing lists Register in advance for this meeting: https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fus02web.zo... After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the meeting. AFRINIC Stakeholder Engagement Team _______________________________________________ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.afri... -- coc-tf mailing list coc-tf@ripe.net https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.ripe...
Hi Brian, On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 2:44 AM Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie> wrote:
Leo,
That looks very interesting. I had hoped to attend, but unfortunately something has cropped up that I can't get out of. Hopefully someone from the team will be able to attend?
AFRINIC told me that there is a chance they will publish a recording. If they do, I'll share the link for the recording. Kind regards, Leo
Great stuff, I really hope they do. Thanks, Brian Brian Nisbet Service Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 ________________________________ From: Leo Vegoda <leo@vegoda.org> Sent: Thursday 25 February 2021 13:27 To: Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie> Cc: coc-tf@ripe.net <coc-tf@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [coc-tf] Fwd: [Community-Discuss] Participate in AFRINIC’s webinar on “Public Persecution vs. Constructive Criticism on AFRINIC mailing lists” CAUTION[External]: This email originated from outside of the organisation. Do not click on links or open the attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Brian, On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 2:44 AM Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie> wrote:
Leo,
That looks very interesting. I had hoped to attend, but unfortunately something has cropped up that I can't get out of. Hopefully someone from the team will be able to attend?
AFRINIC told me that there is a chance they will publish a recording. If they do, I'll share the link for the recording. Kind regards, Leo
Hi, On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 5:57 AM Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie> wrote:
Great stuff, I really hope they do.
I am not aware of AFRINIC publishing a recording of the webinar but they have just published this Executive Summary. https://www.afrinic.net/20210316-summary-afrinic-community-consultative-webi... It looks like they had an interesting discussion. I'll look out for what the next steps might be. Kind regards, Leo
Leo, Aye, albeit it looks like the kind of conversation that has happened many times before and I wonder was any prior experience brought into it? That said, this really does seem to be one of those things that communities have to discover for themselves. Thanks, Brian Brian Nisbet (he/him) Service Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 ________________________________ From: Leo Vegoda <leo@vegoda.org> Sent: Tuesday 16 March 2021 15:25 To: Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie> Cc: coc-tf@ripe.net <coc-tf@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [coc-tf] Fwd: [Community-Discuss] Participate in AFRINIC’s webinar on “Public Persecution vs. Constructive Criticism on AFRINIC mailing lists” CAUTION[External]: This email originated from outside of the organisation. Do not click on links or open the attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. Hi, On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 5:57 AM Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie> wrote:
Great stuff, I really hope they do.
I am not aware of AFRINIC publishing a recording of the webinar but they have just published this Executive Summary. https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.afrini... It looks like they had an interesting discussion. I'll look out for what the next steps might be. Kind regards, Leo
Hi, On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 8:30 AM Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie> wrote:
Leo,
Aye, albeit it looks like the kind of conversation that has happened many
times before and I wonder was any prior experience brought into it? That said, this really does seem to be one of those things that communities have to discover for themselves. AFRINIC shared a community update earlier today and it included this, which I find very interesting. Updates on the Mailing list clean up Exercise
To safeguard the community from being subject to inappropriate behaviours, we have developed mechanisms to verify and authenticate the mailing lists’ users. The terms of use are now approved and we are working on its implementation starting with the community-discuss mailing list.
Kind regards, Leo
Oh, hmm, yeah, that is interesting. Brian Nisbet (he/him) Service Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 ________________________________ From: Leo Vegoda <leo@vegoda.org> Sent: Wednesday 17 March 2021 14:29 To: Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie> Cc: coc-tf@ripe.net <coc-tf@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [coc-tf] Fwd: [Community-Discuss] Participate in AFRINIC’s webinar on “Public Persecution vs. Constructive Criticism on AFRINIC mailing lists” CAUTION[External]: This email originated from outside of the organisation. Do not click on links or open the attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. Hi, On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 8:30 AM Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie<mailto:brian.nisbet@heanet.ie>> wrote:
Leo,
Aye, albeit it looks like the kind of conversation that has happened many times before and I wonder was any prior experience brought into it? That said, this really does seem to be one of those things that communities have to discover for themselves.
AFRINIC shared a community update earlier today and it included this, which I find very interesting. Updates on the Mailing list clean up Exercise To safeguard the community from being subject to inappropriate behaviours, we have developed mechanisms to verify and authenticate the mailing lists’ users. The terms of use are now approved and we are working on its implementation starting with the community-discuss mailing list. Kind regards, Leo
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