Leo,

One point that I'm definitely sure on is that we will need a larger team than what we have at the moment, especially as we were discussing needs for people to still be able to attend and function at a meeting.

Brian

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From: Leo Vegoda <leo@vegoda.org>
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To: Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie>
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Subject: Re: [coc-tf] Python Community CoC & Procedures

 

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Hi,

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 8:22 AM Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie> wrote:
>
> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.python.org%2Fpsf%2Fconduct%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7Ccc2c863f0ff24669545008d8841b8fa0%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637404601201294919%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=STgrDjNTpNj2w0uT15tOBaIybbn3stfsh7KUl3S8Ky0%3D&amp;reserved=0

I found this an impressive collection of documents. There's clearly
been a lot of careful thought put into this code.

I particularly like the "Our Community" section at the start,
especially the first bullet about being open.

The summary of process in the Python code goes from #4 (Evaluate the
reported incident) to #5 (Propose a behavioral modification plan) and
#6 (Propose consequences for the reported behavior). It is only at
this point that there's an acknowledgement that a report could be in
error. I think that for clarity of communication, we should make sure
the process itself does not appear to pre-judge the outcome.

The section on decision making is useful input to us in a couple of
contexts. Firstly, they require a 2/3 majority in a vote of the Code
of Conduct WG when deciding on behavioral modification plans and
consequences for violation of the code. If we chose to adopt this
model it would mean a significantly larger team than the current
Trusted Contacts team, which was previously three members and is now
two. This is because the vote needs to be possible if a member has a
conflict of interest or is unavailable. Presumably, this means at
least four people in the Code of Conduct team.

Many thanks,

Leo

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