Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Police
Il 22 agosto 2017 alle 10.07 phishing@storey.xxx ha scritto:
"To be clear, I am against registrars deciding do de-register domains based on domain content or politics,"
There needs to be an organisationally (RIPE/ICANN) imposed list of prohibited content, with the ability to review action or inaction. If there are internationally agreed prohibited items, this removes the misuse you speak of (oppression of political dissidents etc.)
There can be no such thing as "internationally agreed prohibited items", as these are highly cultural. Even just inside the EU, for example, there are countries in which a significant share of the population votes for a communist party with hammer & sickle in its symbol, and other countries where just showing that symbol gets you in jail. Perhaps the only thing which is almost generally agreed as being forbidden is child pornography - but even for that, the degree of illegality varies a lot throughout the world, as varies the very definition of what constitutes child pornography. And, by the way, there is no global organization (not even the UN, let alone ICANN or RIPE) with the legal authority to define such a list. If ICANN ever tried to work on this, its authority would immediately be challenged by a significant number of governments (likely starting with Russia and most Arab countries) that do not believe in "multistakeholderism" and would consider international rules on Internet content as a breach of their sovereignty. Regards -- Vittorio Bertola | Research & Innovation Engineer vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com mailto:vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com Open-Xchange Srl - Office @ Via Treviso 12, 10144 Torino, Italy
With a few exceptions you are correct - Child abuse material, malware and such, where there is broad international consensus --srs
On 24-Aug-2017, at 2:09 PM, Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com> wrote:
There can be no such thing as "internationally agreed prohibited items", as these are highly cultural. Even just inside the EU, for example, there
Hmm, if it is spam malware, in .ru for example (and many other countries), it may actually be be legal software. so, no.. too general maybe you mean slavery, cannibalism & child abuse? (then, the Internet may be used to assist in the crimes similar to a car used to assist in a robbery...) Which specific Internet abuse qualifies for "internationally agreed prohibited items" ? and the real question still remains: "how tech should respond to abhorrent content, and whether content should be policed by registrars, browsers, or social networks" I say no. Whichever region law enforcement should enforce laws. Not huge multinational companies enforcing their monoculture on the world. Andre On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 14:58:47 +0530 Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
With a few exceptions you are correct - Child abuse material, malware and such, where there is broad international consensus
On 24-Aug-2017, at 2:09 PM, Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com> wrote:
There can be no such thing as "internationally agreed prohibited items", as these are highly cultural. Even just inside the EU, for example, there
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