Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Brian Krebs posts stophaus chat logs of Spamhaus ddos coordination
Curious - what factors would these be that you identified? --srs
On 27-Aug-2016, at 2:00 PM, ox <andre@ox.co.za> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 13:41:28 +0530 Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Worth a read http://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/08/inside-the-attack-that-almost-broke-the-i...
Yes, the actual logs that Brian Krebs publishes, of the conversations, underlines and serves as clear proof of those factors which serves to obtuse anti abuse efforts.
Until this is resolved, Internet abuse will continue to be difficult to manage. This makes it difficult for anyone one the Internet, including the Cyber Criminals themselves, to deal with Internet abuse effectively anyway.
2c
Andre
On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 14:05:38 +0530 Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Curious - what factors would these be that you identified?
But, at least two or more of the five factors are so very clear? imho the most obvious is: Effectively managing abuse depends on the interaction and relationship between two main and different techs of the Internet Those engineers that route and those that are system engineers The second most obvious thing, in my opinion, may be that if you ask ten of either of these what constitutes Internet abuse, you will receive at least two and as much as five (or more), different answers. and then there are so many other factors, what do you think the factors are? Andre
On 27-Aug-2016, at 2:00 PM, ox <andre@ox.co.za> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 13:41:28 +0530 Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Worth a read http://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/08/inside-the-attack-that-almost-broke-the-i...
Yes, the actual logs that Brian Krebs publishes, of the conversations, underlines and serves as clear proof of those factors which serves to obtuse anti abuse efforts.
Until this is resolved, Internet abuse will continue to be difficult to manage. This makes it difficult for anyone one the Internet, including the Cyber Criminals themselves, to deal with Internet abuse effectively anyway.
2c
Andre
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