-------- Original Message -------- On 22 Aug 2017, 06:21, ox wrote: The Internet is all about inter operation, co operation and if something is not legal, why not have laws and law enforcement deal with it? All societies have laws, we all have real Police. Why should companies be deciding what is legal and what is not? Our Police and our Laws have become something secondary to these global companies. I'm not accountable to US, Chinese, Russian, Nigerian etc etc laws and neither are my users. We can't be shutting down pinknews.co.uk because some regime regressed a few decades of civil liberties and made their content illegal. Also in places such as the UK our laws haven't exactly been stellar at respecting the right to privacy or against self incrimination in a digital age. "Co-operating" with law enforcement should go as far as local MLATs require and no more.
MLATs as well as international legal assistance frameworks such as the Budapest Convention generally have a provision called “dual criminality” They don’t come into force unless the activity in question is a crime in the laws of both countries. That way if a country makes homosexuality, or criticism of their king or president a crime, they wouldn’t be able to prosecute that through an MLAT process. From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Gareth Llewellyn <gareth@networksaremadeofstring.co.uk> Reply-To: Gareth Llewellyn <gareth@networksaremadeofstring.co.uk> Date: Tuesday, 22 August 2017 at 11:36 AM To: <andre@ox.co.za>, <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Police "Co-operating" with law enforcement should go as far as local MLATs require and no more.
-------- Original Message -------- On 22 Aug 2017, 07:10, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: That way if a country makes homosexuality, or criticism of their king or president a crime, they wouldn’t be able to prosecute that through an MLAT process. Exactly. Just because idiotic Government A decides something is legal (UK decryption orders / data retention) or illegal doesn't mean it should affect the rest of the Internet.
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