On Wed, 1 Feb 2017 10:23:07 +0000 HRH Prince Sven Olaf von CyberBunker <svenk@xs4all.nl> wrote:

On 01 فبر, 2017 ص 05:10, ox wrote:

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For those that do use smtp, and to identify those isps that refuse to stop abusing others, there needs to be a list.

that's all very cute... as long as that 'list of isps' would remain <snip snip> going 'spamhaus is now listing OUR networks, our sales department can't send mail to 1/3rd of the world and they demand we disconnect

luckily for you, smtp is dead and non important to you - so you can Facebook your clients :) Personally, I do not want emails from people (isps) who enable kiddie porn, spam, phish or other rubbish - so I CHOOSE to use RBLs that I trust and that I know are operated fairly and ethically. If isps want to be paid for pushing packets they need to take responsibility fro what they are pushing (CONTENT) - pushing child pornography, slavery and a whole buch of evil is simply not acceptable. It is not acceptable to say: I push traffic and I do not care what it is or how it is destroying little kids or the lives of innocent people. Andre