On Thu, 05 Jan 2017 16:17:51 +0530 Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

My late grandmother said that people who are jaundiced think the whole world is yellow.

Andre – we just aren’t engaging in post truth as much as that you need to cure yourself of this jaundice (or maybe step over into the real world from an alternate universe)

thank you for sharing that, it is so true :) The reality is that there are enough good, ethical and honest people left, so we can make a difference. We need to adapt to this time Suresh, in 2017 - we need to stop compromising and speak more directly. As president elect Trump commented recently " It will not happen!" in response to North Korea inter continental nuclear ballistic. Of course cnn, nyt etc commented that Trump is simply posturing... But, If I was North Korea, I would seriously consider that Trump may well be the American President that will launch a nuclear missile at North Korea, so I probably will not push Trump at all as he will, in all probability "push the button" So, time has come and gone for not saying what you think and what your position is... Re : RPZ I think you missed this, right from the bottom of the last post: yes, because I have not said anything about this train smash many years ago as I thought that it will be okay, "someone" would do something Well, even in DNS OPS list, I was the only one that stated direct, strong and uncompromising opposition to RPZ. "Someone" did not do anything, now we are sitting with an informational draft that promotes methods of lies, deception and is patently not ethical. I do not care, whether people agree with me, or disagree with me or if I am popular (give warm fuzzy feelings) or if anyone hates my guts. I am going to speak out, as in the next years, if RPZ does become an RFC, then that will also be just fine - as I did my very best to "promote" my own "truth" in this time when "truth" is negotiable and "facts" are simply inconvenient things the Big 5 Multinationals spin any way they like. Andre

--srs

On 05/01/17, 3:34 PM, "anti-abuse-wg on behalf of ox" <anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net on behalf of andre@ox.co.za> wrote:

On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 22:37:36 +1300 Mark Foster <blakjak@gmail.com> wrote:

> Replying against my better judgement, as Andre appears to be > Trolling for all he's worth. > But on the off chance... >

It seems, every time in post-truth, when positions are indefensible, the name calling starts?

Calling me messianic, a troll, idiot or an assehole or whatever?