Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Definition of Abuse - preamble
On 08/25/2016 02:38 PM, ox wrote:
Hello Gunther,
Okay, I have read through your reply and it seems you do not understand that a single resource is not a network.
Internet Abuse - Needs two resources - otherwise it is not a network and by default - not Internet Abuse.
If you are on my server: unauthorized - is abuse authorized - is not abuse
If you use my server to do something to another resource...
Get it yet?
No. Sorry. :-( "If you use my server to do something. " Stop. I do not need "another resource". I wonder what arguments you have against my suggestion of wording. I even doubt that the anti-abuse-working-group is limited to network based abuse. Entering wrong registration data (let's say by FAX) could also be covered by this group though it is not a network based abuse. No artificial restrictions please; they might hurt us later on. best greetings, Gunther NetCologne Systemadministration -- NetCologne Gesellschaft für Telekommunikation mbH Am Coloneum 9 ; 50829 Köln Geschäftsführer: Timo von Lepel, Mario Wilhelm Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Dr. Andreas Cerbe HRB 25580, AG Köln
On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 15:28:58 +0200 Gunther Nitzsche <gnitzsche@netcologne.de> wrote:
On 08/25/2016 02:38 PM, ox wrote:
Hello Gunther, Okay, I have read through your reply and it seems you do not understand that a single resource is not a network. Internet Abuse - Needs two resources - otherwise it is not a network and by default - not Internet Abuse. If you are on my server: unauthorized - is abuse authorized - is not abuse If you use my server to do something to another resource... Get it yet?
No. Sorry. :-(
okay, I will try to explain it better :) In English, abuse is an action on something by something there are always two things. For example If you abuse your donkey ( --> = abuse ) You --> Donkey Normal bitcoin mining abuse = You --> CPU Anyway, Internet abuse same principle One resource --> another resource Get it now?
"If you use my server to do something. " Stop. I do not need "another resource". I wonder what arguments you have against my suggestion of wording.
I even doubt that the anti-abuse-working-group is limited to network based abuse. Entering wrong registration data (let's say by FAX) could also be covered by this group though it is not a network based abuse.
wrong registration data by fax - is not Internet abuse (doubtful if it even normal or just abuse...)
No artificial restrictions please; they might hurt us later on.
best greetings,
Gunther
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