On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:14:31 +0530 Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

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On 20-Jun-2016, at 11:05 AM, andre@ox.co.za wrote: to also add my 1c - 7 of the top ten spammers on the planet is from the USA https://www.spamhaus.org/statistics/spammers/ And currently the only spam getting through my new anti spam system is from Google, Hotmail, Outlook - huge US multi nationals and large email houses like Mimecast - that sends emails for Governments and also sends spam.

Sure. And a significant part of the resources being abused are in RIPE’s coverage area. I thought this new fangled internet thing was going to bring about a global connected world and make geography irrelevant?

where the bad actors are (follow the money )is relevant as the various countries have their own laws (CANSPAM, etc) And lets face it - The huge multinationals control everything - including the RIPE resources. Andre -- Do not read the rest of this - it is mostly diatribe and rubbish non related to email abuse When I say control, I mean more than / over 50% of - as in a democratic unit of measure... We are even manipulated into thinking what they want us to think, without even knowing that, and do you think in the future this will become more or less? used a pad or mobile smart phone recently? some/most of the kids of tomorrow are probably going to grow up as drones without even knowing or realizing that they are drones. The new normal is that of subservient trust in a multi national. It is only to say which multi national is going to rule the world? Then, we will be one planet, united as one people, under the main bot controller - and yes, we will all simply be bots to the AI. Will it be the AI of Google? The AI of Microsoft? Any of the other three large AI? Already, on this list - You can go and view your email source - your email is in all probability being read - and judged - actually some providers have now started cleaning email headers - you may not even know how much your own privacy has already been compromised. If you think that I am some sort of whackjob conspiracy theorist, I am actually not. If you think that I am chicken little, you may be right, but you should also consider that the horse has actually already left the stable (or the horses anyway) - maybe the horses are only now starting to look outside of the paddock... maybe not - If you have no idea what I am gargling on about, do not concern yourself, sit back and tell yourself that you are really in control and everything is fine and that your children and their children will be fine. But, you can call a cow a pig if you like, this is okay for you, but it is still what everyone else knows to be a cow. Less than two generations from now, people will not be fine. What we do and what we do not do today will decide that, although I am of the opinion that it may already simply be too late. So, rather sit back and watch some tv. btw, English is my third language, so please excuse the there's and theirs and other mixups.. .I am working on improving myself constantly... almost like an autobot :)