Scania is a Swedish truck company, with a subsidiary company in NL. For those more observant, the phone number given is incorrect for two reasons: 1) it has 9 digits and Holland has 10 as a standard (for years). 2) If the office is in Zwolle (netnumber 038), the phone number given is in Utrecht (030). This is possible of course, but confusing. A question that could be asked is, does Scania NL really have its own IP range? Maybe, why not? Taking it one step further. Looking at the Scania NLwebsite I see that the main office of Scania Nederland B.V. is in Breda (076), but a Scania production unit is in Zwolle with these contact details: Scania Production Zwolle B.V. Russenweg 5 Postbus 618 8000 AP Zwolle Tel: +31 (0)38-4977 611 (See here from the contact details in the database +31 30977966 It's close, probably an extension number and two typos somewhere. Scania's? RIPE NCC's? A villain?) A small check should suffice to correct the database I think. Best, Wout de Natris - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - De Natris Consult Raaphorst 33 Tel: +31 648388813 2352 KJ Leiderdorp Skype: wout.de.natris denatrisconsult@hotmail.nl http://www.denatrisconsult.nl Blog http://woutdenatris.wordpress.com

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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:57:12 +0530 From: Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] A Network without contact! To: Arnold <wiegert@telus.net> Cc: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Message-ID: <CAArzuotWrFqj=tb0UKe5O+NpN0FZ+oxcgboZ7W5CYWSNrwG80A@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

The scania bv website shows the provide alternate contact information

--srs (htc one x) On 29-Mar-2013 10:53 PM, "Arnold" <wiegert@telus.net> wrote:

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On 3/29/2013 4:19 AM, Reza Farzan wrote:

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Hello All,****

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Here is a network that I came across which does not have any contact information: ********

Entries like it are the bane of SPAM reporters. But if you go to: http://apps.db.ripe.net/search/query.html and enter *RS3212-RIPE* from the data you posted, you will get something like

*person: Roelof Sondaar****address: Scania Nederland B.V. Potbus 61S****address: 8000 AP Zwolle****address: NL****phone: +31 30977966****nic-hdl: **RS3212-RIPE <http://apps.db.ripe.net/whois/lookup/ripe/person/RS3212-RIPE.html>****mnt-by: **RIPE-ERX-MNT <http://apps.db.ripe.net/whois/lookup/ripe/mntner/RIPE-ERX-MNT.html>****source: RIPE #Filtered*

If you then follow nic-handle you'll find:*person: Roelof Sondaar****address: Scania Nederland B.V. Potbus 61S****address: 8000 AP Zwolle****address: NL****phone: +31 30977966****nic-hdl: RS3212-RIPE****mnt-by: **RIPE-ERX-MNT <http://apps.db.ripe.net/whois/lookup/ripe/mntner/RIPE-ERX-MNT.html>***

*changed: ** hostmaster@arin.net **19910628** **changed: ** er-transfer@ripe.net** 20031003** **source: RIPE*

The contacts in red above, ought to be able to pass on information and that is as close as you can get by e-mail - at least for now :-(

Arnold

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inetnum: 148.148.0.0 - 148.148.255.255****

netname: SCANIF****

descr: Scania Nederland B.V.****

descr: ****P.O. Box** 618******

descr: 8000 AP ****Zwolle********

country: NL****

admin-c: RS3212-RIPE****

tech-c: RS3212-RIPE****

status: EARLY-REGISTRATION****

mnt-by: ERX-NET-148-148-MNT****

mnt-lower: ERX-NET-148-148-MNT****

mnt-routes: ERX-NET-148-148-MNT****

changed: hostmaster@arin.net 19910418****

changed: hostmaster@arin.net 19910418****

changed: er-transfer@ripe.net 20031003****

source: RIPE****

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person: Roelof Sondaar****

address: Scania Nederland B.V. Potbus 61S****

address: 8000 AP ****Zwolle********

address: NL****

phone: +31 30977966****

nic-hdl: RS3212-RIPE****

mnt-by: RIPE-ERX-MNT****

changed: hostmaster@arin.net 19910628****

changed: er-transfer@ripe.net 20031003****

source: RIPE****

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How can someone contact this network? Does anyone know?****

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Thank you,****

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Reza Farzan**** ********

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