Re: [anti-abuse-wg] [routing-wg] AS12679 -- 206.195.224.0/19
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In message <CACWOCC-=kRCxGMO7sodDBWXM9o9kFbdeKW+RK9B1Tihf7cWDOA@mail.gmail.com>, Job Snijders <job@instituut.net> wrote:
All snide aside, did you report this prefix=E2=80=99s current state to ARIN through their fraud form? If not, I'm happy to do so.
Negative. I did not do so and I shall not do so. Like all of the RIRs, ARIN's forms and their procedures for dealing with these kinds of issues are, by intent, black holes. I give them the product of my hard work and my diligent effort and research and what do I get back? Do I get a bug bounty? No. Do I get a 10% finders fee for finding the facts that allow some block to be returned to its rightful (legacy) owner or to the RIR free pool? No. Do I get any kind of reward whatsoever? No. Do I at least get a courtesy follow-up after a certain period of time has elapsed, telling me whether they think I am right or wrong? NO! I don't get squat! I don't get either a confirmation, or a rebuttal. In fact I don't get anything at all. I don't even get a polite thank you. But let's just forget about that. Do you really think that me filling some bloody stupid form is really going to chage the process -or- the outcomes? Do you seriously think that YOU filling out the form will have any better effect? If so, I'm going to have to ask you to defend that belief in light of the known facts. Do you really think that ARIN is utterly ignorant about this, even though I got an on-the-record ``no comment'' comment directly from John Curran about it before I even posted it? https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2019-August/102791.html If not, then how do you explain the fact that after 5 months ARIN hasn't lifted a finger to do a damn thing about it? Looking forward to you explaining this to me Job. I'm all ears. Regards, rfg P.S. I don't need to seek out any web forms or any RIR if I want to experience first-hand this level of lethargic and studied inaction. As I like to tell people, if I ever want to experience this kind of utter lack of productive activity... well... I have relatives for that!
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From: American Registry for Internet Numbers <do-not-reply@arin.net> To: Job Snijders <job@ntt.net> Message-ID: <1348607530.6148.1580136947348.JavaMail.wildfly@aosigner1.core.ash.arin.net> Subject: Fraud Report Confirmed
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It appears changes have been made to the record, perhaps by ARIN staff. $ whois -h whois.arin.net 206.195.224.0 NetRange: 206.195.224.0 - 206.195.255.255 CIDR: 206.195.224.0/19 NetName: THRIFTD NetHandle: NET-206-195-224-0-1 Parent: NET206 (NET-206-0-0-0-0) NetType: Direct Assignment OriginAS: Organization: Thrift Drug, Inc. (THRIFT) RegDate: 1995-08-03 Updated: 2020-01-28 Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/206.195.224.0 The 'OriginAS:' attribute is now empty, also the 'Updated:' date changed. Kind regards, Job
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In message <20200129091215.GK3622@vurt.meerval.net>, Job Snijders <job@ntt.net> wrote:
It appears changes have been made to the record, perhaps by ARIN staff.
$ whois -h whois.arin.net 206.195.224.0
NetRange: 206.195.224.0 - 206.195.255.255 CIDR: 206.195.224.0/19 NetName: THRIFTD NetHandle: NET-206-195-224-0-1 Parent: NET206 (NET-206-0-0-0-0) NetType: Direct Assignment OriginAS: Organization: Thrift Drug, Inc. (THRIFT) RegDate: 1995-08-03 Updated: 2020-01-28 Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/206.195.224.0
The 'OriginAS:' attribute is now empty, also the 'Updated:' date changed.
Great! One down. Many more to go. Regards, rfg
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Job Snijders
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Ronald F. Guilmette