Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 48, Issue 12
Hi
Mailscanner/amavis with clamav can not protect spammers very well
Sorry, I did not understand this frase...
ip block lists are a first and still quite useful line of defense. Can you share which open source anti spam application works well. We do not want to let them do business with spam by taking cloud based solution like zero spam/comodo anti spam. Rather we are trying to find a open source solution that works well against spam.
If you are saying... good and thanks, but without the help of the good ISPs is that possible? Look for that. I took the HEADER POSTED BY YOU and made a research. Note the existing structure behind this spammer (links below). There are all kinds of support, courses and tools, to enable spam. Including how to avoid spam box. https://www.ecommercebrasil.com.br/ http://www.socialminer.com.br/ https://clube.ecommercebrasil.com.br/ https://cursos.ecommercebrasil.com.br/ http://imasters.expert/ Include domains on blocklist will resolve or mitigate this hell created by greedy Sociopaths and predators? Guys, we can divide the history of capitalism in before and after the email marketing. This e-mail marketing is an aberration, a distortion of the capitalist system, and is worse than the financial capitalism that creates resources without generating corresponding riches, and from time to times the bubble explodes and the losses are distributed equally among all, as if we live in a communist system. Similarly e-mail marketing does not create any wealth, only directs people misinformed to buy a good that needs, in one or another place. And do it in a way that borders on sociopathy, without respect for people, sending again and again, ad infinitum, the same junk. Thanks Marilson -----Mensagem Original----- From: anti-abuse-wg-request@ripe.net Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 10:58 AM To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 48, Issue 12 Send anti-abuse-wg mailing list submissions to anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/anti-abuse-wg or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to anti-abuse-wg-request@ripe.net You can reach the person managing the list at anti-abuse-wg-owner@ripe.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of anti-abuse-wg digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Anti spam gateway (Suman Kumar Saha) 2. Re: Anti spam gateway (Suresh Ramasubramanian) 3. Re: Anti spam gateway (Suman Kumar Saha) 4. Re: Anti spam gateway (Suresh Ramasubramanian) 5. Re: Anti spam gateway (Suman Kumar Saha) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 18:44:07 +0600 From: Suman Kumar Saha <suman@bdcert.org> To: "anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net" <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> Subject: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti spam gateway Message-ID: <845D06FB-9540-4B4E-BF27-47F951884486@bdcert.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear ALL, In our community mostly using mailscanner or amavis with postfix/exim as anti spam email gateway.But its perfection is not satisfactory now-a-days.Can you share which open source anti spam application works well. Thanks Suman bdCERT
Hi. My point was current popular open source tools like Mailscanner/Amavis not working perfectly to fight against spam.So I expect someone from the working group can share better anti spam tool.We extremely disagree to give business opportunity to anti spam solution provider like barracuda or to others.Rather if we can enrich open source tools that will really be benefited for the community. Thanks Suman
On Oct 10, 2015, at 11:38 PM, Marilson <marilson.mapa@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
Mailscanner/amavis with clamav can not protect spammers very well
Sorry, I did not understand this frase...
ip block lists are a first and still quite useful line of defense. Can you share which open source anti spam application works well. We do not want to let them do business with spam by taking cloud based solution like zero spam/comodo anti spam. Rather we are trying to find a open source solution that works well against spam.
If you are saying... good and thanks, but without the help of the good ISPs is that possible? Look for that. I took the HEADER POSTED BY YOU and made a research. Note the existing structure behind this spammer (links below). There are all kinds of support, courses and tools, to enable spam. Including how to avoid spam box.
https://www.ecommercebrasil.com.br/ http://www.socialminer.com.br/ https://clube.ecommercebrasil.com.br/ https://cursos.ecommercebrasil.com.br/ http://imasters.expert/
Include domains on blocklist will resolve or mitigate this hell created by greedy Sociopaths and predators?
Guys, we can divide the history of capitalism in before and after the email marketing. This e-mail marketing is an aberration, a distortion of the capitalist system, and is worse than the financial capitalism that creates resources without generating corresponding riches, and from time to times the bubble explodes and the losses are distributed equally among all, as if we live in a communist system. Similarly e-mail marketing does not create any wealth, only directs people misinformed to buy a good that needs, in one or another place. And do it in a way that borders on sociopathy, without respect for people, sending again and again, ad infinitum, the same junk.
Thanks Marilson
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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 18:44:07 +0600 From: Suman Kumar Saha <suman@bdcert.org> To: "anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net" <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> Subject: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti spam gateway Message-ID: <845D06FB-9540-4B4E-BF27-47F951884486@bdcert.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Dear ALL, In our community mostly using mailscanner or amavis with postfix/exim as anti spam email gateway.But its perfection is not satisfactory now-a-days.Can you share which open source anti spam application works well.
Thanks Suman bdCERT
I already told you what is available and also that they all require a considerable amount of tuning. Besides what you're mentioning is all av and not really spam filtering --srs
On 11-Oct-2015, at 2:41 PM, Suman Kumar Saha <suman@bdcert.org> wrote:
Hi. My point was current popular open source tools like Mailscanner/Amavis not working perfectly to fight against spam.So I expect someone from the working group can share better anti spam tool.We extremely disagree to give business opportunity to anti spam solution provider like barracuda or to others.Rather if we can enrich open source tools that will really be benefited for the community.
Thanks Suman
On Oct 10, 2015, at 11:38 PM, Marilson <marilson.mapa@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
Mailscanner/amavis with clamav can not protect spammers very well
Sorry, I did not understand this frase...
ip block lists are a first and still quite useful line of defense. Can you share which open source anti spam application works well. We do not want to let them do business with spam by taking cloud based solution like zero spam/comodo anti spam. Rather we are trying to find a open source solution that works well against spam.
If you are saying... good and thanks, but without the help of the good ISPs is that possible? Look for that. I took the HEADER POSTED BY YOU and made a research. Note the existing structure behind this spammer (links below). There are all kinds of support, courses and tools, to enable spam. Including how to avoid spam box.
https://www.ecommercebrasil.com.br/ http://www.socialminer.com.br/ https://clube.ecommercebrasil.com.br/ https://cursos.ecommercebrasil.com.br/ http://imasters.expert/
Include domains on blocklist will resolve or mitigate this hell created by greedy Sociopaths and predators?
Guys, we can divide the history of capitalism in before and after the email marketing. This e-mail marketing is an aberration, a distortion of the capitalist system, and is worse than the financial capitalism that creates resources without generating corresponding riches, and from time to times the bubble explodes and the losses are distributed equally among all, as if we live in a communist system. Similarly e-mail marketing does not create any wealth, only directs people misinformed to buy a good that needs, in one or another place. And do it in a way that borders on sociopathy, without respect for people, sending again and again, ad infinitum, the same junk.
Thanks Marilson
-----Mensagem Original----- From: anti-abuse-wg-request@ripe.net Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 10:58 AM To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 48, Issue 12
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1. Anti spam gateway (Suman Kumar Saha) 2. Re: Anti spam gateway (Suresh Ramasubramanian) 3. Re: Anti spam gateway (Suman Kumar Saha) 4. Re: Anti spam gateway (Suresh Ramasubramanian) 5. Re: Anti spam gateway (Suman Kumar Saha)
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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 18:44:07 +0600 From: Suman Kumar Saha <suman@bdcert.org> To: "anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net" <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> Subject: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti spam gateway Message-ID: <845D06FB-9540-4B4E-BF27-47F951884486@bdcert.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Dear ALL, In our community mostly using mailscanner or amavis with postfix/exim as anti spam email gateway.But its perfection is not satisfactory now-a-days.Can you share which open source anti spam application works well.
Thanks Suman bdCERT
Suman, * Suman Kumar Saha <suman@bdcert.org>:
Hi. My point was current popular open source tools like Mailscanner/Amavis not working perfectly to fight against spam.So I expect someone from the working group can share better anti spam tool.We extremely disagree to give business opportunity to anti spam solution provider like barracuda or to others.Rather if we can enrich open source tools that will really be benefited for the community.
we use open source tools at ISPs and they work very well. But they alone will not do the job. It requires a set of connection, session and content filters to keep spam and malware away. These include RBLs, SPF, DKIM and DMARC filters, session filters that check for simple RFC errors (not too strict) and configured (!) spam filters such as SpamAssassin. In combination these work very well. For the record: Fighting abuse and phishing is something we put in more effort. p@rick
On Oct 10, 2015, at 11:38 PM, Marilson <marilson.mapa@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
Mailscanner/amavis with clamav can not protect spammers very well
Sorry, I did not understand this frase...
ip block lists are a first and still quite useful line of defense. Can you share which open source anti spam application works well. We do not want to let them do business with spam by taking cloud based solution like zero spam/comodo anti spam. Rather we are trying to find a open source solution that works well against spam.
If you are saying... good and thanks, but without the help of the good ISPs is that possible? Look for that. I took the HEADER POSTED BY YOU and made a research. Note the existing structure behind this spammer (links below). There are all kinds of support, courses and tools, to enable spam. Including how to avoid spam box.
https://www.ecommercebrasil.com.br/ http://www.socialminer.com.br/ https://clube.ecommercebrasil.com.br/ https://cursos.ecommercebrasil.com.br/ http://imasters.expert/
Include domains on blocklist will resolve or mitigate this hell created by greedy Sociopaths and predators?
Guys, we can divide the history of capitalism in before and after the email marketing. This e-mail marketing is an aberration, a distortion of the capitalist system, and is worse than the financial capitalism that creates resources without generating corresponding riches, and from time to times the bubble explodes and the losses are distributed equally among all, as if we live in a communist system. Similarly e-mail marketing does not create any wealth, only directs people misinformed to buy a good that needs, in one or another place. And do it in a way that borders on sociopathy, without respect for people, sending again and again, ad infinitum, the same junk.
Thanks Marilson
-----Mensagem Original----- From: anti-abuse-wg-request@ripe.net Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 10:58 AM To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 48, Issue 12
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1. Anti spam gateway (Suman Kumar Saha) 2. Re: Anti spam gateway (Suresh Ramasubramanian) 3. Re: Anti spam gateway (Suman Kumar Saha) 4. Re: Anti spam gateway (Suresh Ramasubramanian) 5. Re: Anti spam gateway (Suman Kumar Saha)
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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 18:44:07 +0600 From: Suman Kumar Saha <suman@bdcert.org> To: "anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net" <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> Subject: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti spam gateway Message-ID: <845D06FB-9540-4B4E-BF27-47F951884486@bdcert.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Dear ALL, In our community mostly using mailscanner or amavis with postfix/exim as anti spam email gateway.But its perfection is not satisfactory now-a-days.Can you share which open source anti spam application works well.
Thanks Suman bdCERT
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