Re: [anti-abuse-wg] AS24940 Hetzner -- non-role contact wanted

ac <ac@main.me> you wrote:
Hetzner is one of the few companies that do actually manage abuse and does so very well. And imnsho Hetzner is one of the most ethical companies in the EU
As usual, you are entrely wrong in every respect. and in everything you say. How exactly is it "ethical" for Hetzner to insist on ratting out someone who reports spam TO THE SPAMMER? Do you even know what the term "listwahsing" means? Apparently not. Have you ever been DDoS'd? Apparently not. It's clear from where I am sitting that Hetzner is perhaps the LEAST ethical, and most irresponsible Internet company in all of Europe. And it isn't just me that feels that way.
When you complain of email abuse, you have to agree that your report is sent to the actual operator of the service offered on the resource you are complaining about. As this will allow the actual resource user/operator to investigate the abuse.
Oh yea. That's EXACTLY what I want! I want the criminal bitcoin extortion spammer to have my domain name and email address and my IP adddresses so that he can get together with his other criminal friends and DDoS me. Swell. Just swell. This is probably the best European idea since the one about invading Russia in Winter. Andre, I don't know who you work for, or even if you work at all, which is itself suspect. Maybe you work for Hetzner. You maybe you just sit at home in your underwear all day long, thinking up new rants you can post here about how Google is the Devil Incarnate. I really don't know and I really don't care. You've proven the value of your opinions to every sensible person on this list ten times over. So I am actually greatful for your vigorous disagreement with what I have said, as that alone is likely to insure that everyone who has been on this list for awhile will be certain that my comments are perfectly sensible. And by the way, one can't help wondering what makes you so eager to defend spammers AND those who sell them services. You aren't by any chance in the bulk emailing business, or in the bulk emailing support business yourself, are you? Sorry, but under the circumstances I think it is altogether reasonable to ask. Regards, rfg

On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 22:21:08 -0700 "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg@tristatelogic.com> wrote:
ac <ac@main.me> you wrote:
Hetzner is one of the few companies that do actually manage abuse and does so very well. And imnsho Hetzner is one of the most ethical companies in the EU
As usual, you are entrely wrong in every respect. and in everything you say. <snip>
When you complain of email abuse, you have to agree that your report is sent to the actual operator of the service offered on the resource you are complaining about. As this will allow the actual resource user/operator to investigate the abuse. Oh yea. That's EXACTLY what I want! I want the criminal bitcoin extortion spammer to have my domain name and email address and my IP adddresses so that he can get together with his other criminal friends and DDoS me. Swell. Just swell. This is probably the best European idea since the one about invading Russia in Winter.
trolls live under bridges :) I do understand that you cannot see your own ignorance and you cannot help your arrogance, also that aggression is part of your dna
Andre, I don't know who you work for, or even if you work at all, which is itself suspect. Maybe you work for Hetzner. You maybe you
I do not see how that is relevant to your technical incompetence or ignorance? and how this has anything to do with you directly attacking one of the most ethical network providers in the EU? NETWORK providers provide routing - to companies, people and even countries When you complain to a network provider about EMAIL - the network provider does not operate web servers or email servers... The NETWORK provider needs to forward your complaint - to the service provider. You, in your childish innocence (ignorance) wants to complain to a network provider and you refuse that the network provider sends your complaint to the service provider.
just sit at home in your underwear all day long, thinking up new rants you can post here about how Google is the Devil Incarnate. I really don't know and I really don't care. You've proven the value of your opinions to every sensible person on this list ten times over. So I am actually greatful for your vigorous disagreement with what I have said, as that alone is likely to insure that everyone who has been on this list for awhile will be certain that my comments are perfectly sensible. And by the way, one can't help wondering what makes you so eager to defend spammers AND those who sell them services. You aren't by any chance in the bulk emailing business, or in the bulk emailing support business yourself, are you? Sorry, but under the circumstances I think it is altogether reasonable to ask. Regards, rfg
wow. you are even a more sucky person than I thought... and now everyone knows what and whom you are. Well done!
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