Recent Proposals, the Taskforce & v6 Discussion
Morning, It seemed easier to bring all of these things into one post. First off, the proposals. Suresh, I'm not sure which proposal from Uwe you're talking about, sorry, but Tobias & Piotr's proposals, or at least the addressing of the issues they identified are progressing. Tobias has been in discussion with the NCC DB group and the other proposals are, well, proposed to be dealt with by the task force. So, that task force... We've agreed the basic structure and aims and I'd expect an announcement to go out either this week or early next week. The TF will be an open, although in an attempt to focus the work, there will be some limits on the membership, however the ongoings and results will be public and discussed. I'm no fan of secrecy and while I appreciate it is required in some areas of anti-abuse, I strongly prefer to avoid it where possible. Finally, while discussion about and awareness of v6 is a very important thing, including how it will impact on anti-abuse, I think the current discussions have been veering more than a little off topic. Thanks, Brian.
Hi, On 02/03/2011 Brian wrote:
The TF will be an open, although in an attempt to focus the work, there will be some limits on the membership, however the ongoings and results will be public and discussed. I'm no fan of secrecy and while I appreciate it is required in some areas of anti-abuse, I strongly prefer to avoid it where possible.
I think that is the right approach. At the same time, I hope that the justifiable level of secrecy will not mute the ongoing discussion in this mailing group.
Finally, while discussion about and awareness of v6 is a very important thing, including how it will impact on anti-abuse, I think the current discussions have been veering more than a little off topic.
Full Ack. Sascha
As for Uwe I was thinking of the proposals he submitted at ripe 59. I'll ping him for a followup H. Recovering resources assigned to non-existing entities http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-59/presentations/rasmussen-recovering... Uwe Manuel Rasmussen, Microsoft On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie> wrote:
First off, the proposals. Suresh, I'm not sure which proposal from Uwe you're talking about, sorry, but Tobias & Piotr's proposals, or at least the addressing of the issues they identified are progressing. Tobias has been in discussion with the NCC DB group and the other proposals are, well, proposed to be dealt with by the task force.
-- Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.lists@gmail.com)
Ah, right, yes, there was no actual policy proposal following that presentation and when thinking in RIPE terms proposal has a very particular term, hence the confusion. A lot of work has been done on this by the NCC, did you get a chance to read the NCC document on closure and deregistration procedure as presented at RIPE 61 in Rome (see http://www.ripe.net/legal/Closure-of-LIR-and-deregistration-of-INRs_final-dr...). I linked that a couple of days ago, but it's worth repeating. Brian. "Suresh Ramasubramanian" wrote the following on 03/02/2011 14:33:
As for Uwe I was thinking of the proposals he submitted at ripe 59. I'll ping him for a followup
H. Recovering resources assigned to non-existing entities http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-59/presentations/rasmussen-recovering... Uwe Manuel Rasmussen, Microsoft
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Brian Nisbet<brian.nisbet@heanet.ie> wrote:
First off, the proposals. Suresh, I'm not sure which proposal from Uwe you're talking about, sorry, but Tobias& Piotr's proposals, or at least the addressing of the issues they identified are progressing. Tobias has been in discussion with the NCC DB group and the other proposals are, well, proposed to be dealt with by the task force.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie> wrote:
A lot of work has been done on this by the NCC, did you get a chance to read the NCC document on closure and deregistration procedure as presented at RIPE 61 in Rome (see http://www.ripe.net/legal/Closure-of-LIR-and-deregistration-of-INRs_final-dr...). I linked that a couple of days ago, but it's worth repeating.
I actually read that and am glad to see this finally being implemented. I will follow up with Uwe to see if he had any other proposal in mind and if so to contribute to this process -- Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.lists@gmail.com)
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