Hi Jordi,

EU laws are for EU and not all countries care if they can do bussines with EU, lots of assumption i guess.

Regards,

Arash


On Tue, 12 May 2020, 20:12 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg, <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
I don't think EU laws are useless towards non-EU countries that break them.

In the case of privacy, they will not be able to keep doing business with the EU.

In a more understanding way, EU (or EU members) reach agreements with specific countries so the sanctions can be applied as well, including fines.

For example, when speaking about GDPR, countries like Mauritius and Uruguay, have signed those agreements. I believe the reason is to allow mutual business, it makes a lot of sense: if you are offering applications that collect our citizen data, you must follow our rules, or we will find someone that want to follows them.

We do this every other day, in any economic activity. I know that if you violate speed limit in one country the fine will be collected from your account in many other countries, it is just reciprocity.

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet



El 10/5/20 20:54, "anti-abuse-wg en nombre de Sabri Berisha" <anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net en nombre de sabri@cluecentral.net> escribió:

    ----- On May 7, 2020, at 2:26 AM, Nick Hilliard nick@foobar.org wrote:

    Hi,

    (And to you Töma, Peace :))

    > Töma Gavrichenkov wrote on 07/05/2020 10:03:
    >> What does GDPR have to say about this?
    >
    > You mean the Privacy and Electronic Communications Regulations / PECR.
    > Spamming is prohibited under article 13.
    >
    > National transcriptions of this legislation have implemented this as a
    > civil offence in some EU countries and a criminal offence in others.

    Yes, and as long as the sender is safe in a non-EU country, none of the
    EU "laws" will apply to them nor will they care.

    It's the same thing as saying bad things about Thailand's king while
    shouting from a pedestal on St. Petersburg Square.

    I don't know about you guys, but I have a very effective system for
    dealing with this kind of crap.

    It's called *plonk*.

    Thanks,

    Sabri




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