"Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" wrote: Hi all,
If they send reports to $random addresses they don't really deserve a response
Thats a true word for prefessionals, but not for not-so-skilled reporter, that are happy to find out, that there is something like RIPE and a whois showing them who is responsible for a resource, if they get abused. Anyway, I like the proposal to stay like it is with one address. Its up to the receiver to sort incoming mails, automation is easy, procmail and ticketsystems are the admins friend ... One single address (that is mandatory and will exist for every object) will make it much more easy for not-skilled users to simply report only to this address, especially, when they get whatever response or at least can see, they their reports do not bounce (and I guess that there will be less bounces. ISPs that take repsonsibility, will read them, the others will send them to devnull, but most will actually accept them and keep the address working, because they must fear, that the NCC will test them one day). Its up to the community to communicate, that reports should ONLY go to this address (and maybe up to the NCC to supply tools online, that only return the abuse-c email address). A simple "Got abused from our services ? Enter the IP here and see whos responsible" on every ISPs webpage, imprint and on www.ripe.net will surely help a lot ... Kind regards, Frank
Mr. Michele Neylon Blacknight http://Blacknight.tel
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On 25 Jul 2012, at 13:21, "Thor Kottelin" <thor.kottelin@turvasana.com> wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net [mailto:anti-abuse-wg- bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Tobias Knecht Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 3:04 PM To: Alessandro Vesely; anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net
The point I would make here is, that there are techniques in place that can separate reports and that can proof authentication and that abuse departments can or should use them
I agree, especially as many reporters anyhow seem to use every @-containing string their Whois lookup returns.
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