I agree that the carrot is better than the stick, but if the carrot doesn’t work, we need to use the stick.

My original proposal was basically enforcing the NCC to reclaim the resources when there is a persistent violation of resolving abuse cases. This can be progressive, such as not allowing to update objects in the database, etc. No need to go with “a single failure means you lose your resources”.

As said, this is working in other 2 regions, one more coming (pending of the AFRINIC board ratification). Why should not work in this region the same? Also the PoC in ARIN works in a similar way, and being non-responsive means you get some “members” rights restricted.

Regards,
Jordi

@jordipalet


> El 29 nov 2023, a las 10:51, Leo Vegoda <leo@vegoda.org> escribió:
>
> Hi Jordi,
>
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 at 10:12, jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg
> <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Is not magic, is ensuring that the NCC has the tools, dictated by a policy, to act against those not fulfilling their obligations.
>
> Can you expand on this? What would you have the RIPE NCC do and when?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Leo


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