In message <CAKvLzuG7PPTtQDwx2GoDgULdmLZdz5FzWTwa2pUVQWRqGHfQig@mail.gma il.com>, denis walker <ripedenis@gmail.com> writes
On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 at 16:15, Richard Clayton <richard@highwayman.com> wrote:
You appear to be under the impression that Internet security and safety arises out of the activities of Law Enforcement Agencies whereas in practice private individuals and companies do the vast majority of this work -- generating referrals to LEAs when it is appropriate for action to be taken that only they can perform
We are talking about restricting access to one piece of data, the address of natural persons.
it's several lines of data ...
I accept that a lot of abuse may come from address space held by natural people. I understand that a lot of investigation work is done by companies and individuals. How much of an impact would it be on your activities to not know the private address of these natural people?
what matters is the matching of data, so that it becomes possible to link otherwise disparate activity together -- and also to proactively deal with the risk of further abuse
From the country attribute in their ORGANISATION object (accurately maintained by the RIPE NCC) you know the country that they are legally operating from. You don't know the street or city they work out of.
exactly -- now for bad people, this data is often inaccurate and incomplete, but nevertheless patterns (and consistent inconsistencies!) are often apparent
I can only think of three reasons why you would need the full address. You intend to visit them (unlikely), you want to serve legal papers on them or you attempt some kind of heuristics with the free text search in the database to match up resources with the same address.
the last of these three is what matters -- the other two activities are generally the purview of Law Enforcement and they will be working off rather more information than WHOIS (correspondence with RIPE, payment information etc). -- richard Richard Clayton Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin 11 Nov 1755