Which, considering what nobody implies, is a lovely way to circumvent the grand intentions this proposal has.   Talk about leading horses to water versus making them drink

--srs (htc one x)

On Oct 22, 2012 1:37 PM, "Jørgen Hovland" <jorgen@hovland.cx> wrote:
 Hello,

I think you might be misunderstanding how mandatory contact information works.
As you can see, the mandatory e-mail field is set to nobody@accelerated.de
When abuse-c e-mail will become mandatory, their abuse-c e-mail will continue to be nobody@accelerated.de.



On 10/22/12 09:58, U.Mutlu wrote:
As everybody knows, the proposal "Abuse Contact Management in the RIPE NCC Database"
has already been ratified/accepted more than a month ago, but still some RIPE workers
seem not to know this fact:

https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-06
 Authors: Tobias Knecht, abusix
 Proposal Version: 3.0 06 June 2012
 Accepted: 17 September 2012
 Working Group: Anti-Abuse Working Group
 Proposal type: New
 Policy term: Indefinite
 New RIPE Document: ripe-563

Under §1.0 it says
"The "abuse-c:" will be mandatory for all aut-nums.
Due the hierarchical nature of IP address objects, at least every direct allocated
inetnum and inet6num needs to have an "abuse-c:". Inherited objects might have their
own "abuse-c:" attribute or they will be covered by the higher level objects.
"

Today I got the following reply from RIPE (I removed the name of the sender with XXX,
but can give it if required). Why is this person at RIPE still saying this:
 "At this moment is the 'abuse-c' not yet a mandatory field.
 There is currently a discussion on our mailing list in order to make this a
 mandatory field, but this policy proposal is still under discussion."

???
An official from RIPE please explain to the community what this RIPE person
means with such a statement...:


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: NCC#2012103209 abuse-c for inetnum 84.200.75.0 - 84.200.75.127 missing
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:32:35 +0200
From: RIPE NCC <ncc@ripe.net>
Reply-To: RIPE NCC <ncc@ripe.net>
To: U.Mutlu <security@mutluit.com>


Dear madam/sir,

Thank you for your e-mail.

At this moment is the 'abuse-c' not yet a mandatory field. There is
currently a discussion on our mailing list in order to make this a
mandatory field, but this policy proposal is still under discussion.

You can find the contact details that we have on file at:

http://apps.db.ripe.net/whois/lookup/ripe/person-role/ACC-RIPE.html

And:

https://apps.db.ripe.net/whois/lookup/ripe/mntner/IWERK-MNT.html