The problem is that many of the people objecting - I won’t say all, I know many of you over the years - are not from a security, or more properly an abuse and policy enforcement background. Almost all of it is layer 9 --srs ________________________________ From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Carlos Friaças via anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 2:58:50 AM To: Sander Steffann <sander@steffann.nl> Cc: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] About "consensus" and "voting"... Hi everyone, On Sat, 9 May 2020, Sander Steffann wrote:
Hi Randy,
Otherwise we change the way the working Groups works it will remain unchanged for ever. I agree that we must get a way to vote or another democratic way to get decisions.
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for a large segment of the community, and that which was pretty much the original population, there is an underlying physics and shared experience of moving packets, routing, circuits, bgp, ixen, ... that gives us a common experience and understanding.
I must note, however, that security is embedded inside "..." *sigh* Carlos