Hi Everyone, There are many well skilled and top International technical resources on this mailing list. I would like anyone that disagrees with this post, to simply stand up and say why you disagree. If you agree, please simply remain quiet or maybe expand and add? Gmail.com started out by sending UBE (Unsolicited Bulk Email) to email addresses Google scraped off public emailing lists. (I know this because I was spammed by google, to an email address only used on a Linux mailing list) - The Google spam offered me a "free" gmail account and five invites, where I might "invite" (by adding five email addresses) five other "victims" to receive free @gmail.com email addresses. For Internet techs, open source people and various others, it quickly became a status symbol to be able to have a "google" email address (as @gmail could not yet, at that point, be created by anyone...) - For me, I did not take Google up on their spam, I was to busy figuring out where I can complain about the abuse :) Today, the largest chronic spammers are also Twitter, Facebook, Outlook and other "top" / big/huge dominant Internet companies. It is common knowledge that Twitter and Facebook (supposedly online social media applications) rely heavily on email as a technology, to keep and engage their products. Twitter and Facebook sends a lot of SPAM. And when you start receiving spam from either of these you have to click on many links, and jump through some hoops to eventually get the spammers to stop sending you spam. To block Facebook, or block Twitter, Google or Outlook.com is also impossible and even when you receive phish from Outlook or Google, chances are that it will come through as everyone has to add weight or make special rules, to allow their emails to come through. Yet, a common spammer from wherever else, is quickly blocked and stopped. An easy example (Where you can also see which RBL is ethical, open, fair, honest and truthful) is here: Any Facebook, Twitter, Outlook or Google IP number http://multirbl.valli.org/dnsbl-lookup/69.171.232.139.html and to counter, pick a really tiny spammer, from any small unknown corner of the planet. You will find, technically, that the Big 10 Internet Giants are listed by a handful of decent, honest and ethical RBL - But the tiny small spammer is listed on 60+ So, we have two sets of rules for the dominating Internet giants and for the small startup (who gets hacked by accident) - Similarly, this server that I am sending to on this list, was recently blocked by Microsoft. - I could not send any email to any @microsoft account. Yet, I or my IP co (Hetzner.de) never received even one abuse complaint from @Microsoft in many years. - @Microsoft though, received a few thousand phish. scam, spam and general abuse complaints from myself and my IP number, this past few months alone... So, okay, we all know it is not fair and the playing field is not level and the large companies behave like aggressive animals and best case, like bullies. I started thinking how these large companies are using their dominance, applying it to other technical areas and leveraging growth, money and income from their behavior. And, yes, they are pivoting abuse into cloud, ai, hardware and into domination in other areas. This is at this point an observation, commentary and remarks for myself. Can anyone add any additional substance or comments? Andre