On 3/14/2013 3:28 AM, Denis Walker wrote:
The RIPE Database contains many email addresses. These addresses are there for different reasons. Many attributes may point you to an email address, for example: admin-c: tech-c: zone-c: ping-hdl: notify: ref-nfy: mnt-ref: changed:
and abuse-mailbox:
Only this last one is specifically intended for abuse complaints. The problem we had in the past is that this attribute was always optional and if used could be put in many different places.
I applaud the motion to make the attribute mandatory; whether it will have much effect in reality I'll wait and see. I realize there are many addresses in the RIPE database and if at all possible - for records without an abuse -email address - I tend to address my report to the admin-c, as I see those people as the most likely to have any influence on getting the 'problem' fixed.
I think in this context 'usable' may have different interpretations. One of the functions of the RIPE Database is for engineers to be able to contact each other to resolve network and routing problems. Sending an abuse report to a network engineer because he has a 'usable' email address in the database may not achieve the result you were expecting.
The Abuse Finder tool returns the email addresses that have been provided for receiving abuse reports. If no such address has been provided the tool will return nothing, even if there are other email addresses in the database that are intended for other purposes. Understood and accepted, but I have to and have had to work with what
No disagreement on this from me. I merely pointed out that for _my_ purposes, the Abuse Finder is less useful than the IANA files or the RIPE query page. there was available. If the available resources change, with time my approach will change as well.
Over the next few months, as the abuse-c: data is entered into the database, the Abuse Finder tool will return more positive results. This will be the quickest and most reliable way to find abuse contacts for any resource.
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