Leo, On 01/11/2023 22.37, Leo Vegoda wrote:
On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 at 14:26, Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 01:45:03PM -0700, Leo Vegoda wrote:
The RIPE NCC periodically asks the community about the priority for cleaning up unused ASNs, e.g.
- https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/active-wg/db/minutes/ripe-52 (item G), and - https://ripe82.ripe.net/presentations/7-RIPE82-Feeback-from-RS.pdf (slide 16)
So far, the answer has been that it is a low priority. Perhaps because there are about 4 billion left.
Low priority or not, the NCC is spending quite a bit of hostmaster time in talking to LIRs and trying to reclaim "looks unused" ASNs. Guess how I know.
"Here's my 50 bucks, I claim I need this for another year" is so much less lifetime wasted on all sides.
Sure, but that's a membership decision and not a community decision.
My understanding of how this all works would be that if the anti-abuse community felt strongly that a fee for ASN would reduce abuse on the Internet, that it could put together a proposal saying just that. While this would ultimately have to be up to the members to approve (*), at least they would have a clear proposal with documented rational to discuss. (*) I guess? I admit to never having read the details of how charging is set, since I have never represented a RIPE NCC member. Cheers, -- Shane