On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg@tristatelogic.com> wrote:

Usually however, there is a finite and small number of individuals
behind this sort of thing, so that requiring contact, at some mutually
convenient time, via telephone can most likely flush out the fraud
most efficiently. If it is always the exact same voice on the other
end of the line... even when one is speaking to a number of allegedly
separate and independent companies, then, to paraphrase William
Shakespeare, it should be altogether apparent that something is
rotten in Romania.

I have done the complete paperwork and RIPE interfacing for several of our customers who we are sponsoring PI space and AS numbers for. Matter of fact, this is the default mode of operation for us. This is _precisely_ what tech-c is for and quite common. The same applies to any customer wanting to become a LIR themselves and buying consultation from us.

Assuming a phone-in system was introduced and ignoring the obvious issues with recognizing voices that any hostmaster may or may not have heard at some time before, I would introduce myself as tech-c, tell the hostmaster that I would hand over to admin-c who is not very deep into understanding the matter at hand, and they would basically confirm everything I said.

Exactly the same process and outward appearance for valid and fraudulent requests.

Even though I may disagree with your proposed solution, talking about specific concerns and/or suggestions as per above is vastly preferable over what amounts to grandstanding and refusing to fill out a simple form, and quite vocally so.

This is especially puzzling since you already did the detective work and provided apparently useful information. It's a pity to get side-tracked, really.

I suggest focusing on actual WG discourse on this list.

Thank you for said detective work,

Richard