On Thu, 18 Apr 2019, Richard Clayton wrote:
In message <alpine.LRH.2.21.1904171644150.13524@gauntlet.corp.fccn.pt>, Carlos Friaças via anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> writes
So, the main/only course of action, as i see it today for an hijacked party (if the hijacker is from the RIPE region), is sending a complaint to a dutch court... and it's doubtful if the dutch court will not rule itself to be "unable to rule" on the matter...
You are entirely incorrect that using the courts is the "main" or "only" course of action.
Numerous hijack events have been dealt with down the years. I am not aware of any instance in which a court got involved in stopping the hijack from happening ...
OK, so if courts are not an option.......
... I am aware of peer pressure (literally), action by IXPs, action by organisations providing reputation scores and even action by hosting companies.
Yes, i'm aware of that too. Sometimes it fixes specific hijacks, but does it stop or in anyway cause a delay for hijackers to hop onto the next hijack...???
However, yes, there are hijacks originating from the region, and there isn't an easy way for anyone to report it, so hijacks (or persistent hijackers) are stopped.
hijacks are reported in numerous places, the NANOG mailing list springs immediately to mind -- and posting there is certainly easy
Yes i'm aware about it, but is that the (globally?) de-facto place for raising anyone's attention to an hijack or an hijacker operation?
Trying to sum it up in just a line: "Persistent and intentional resource hijacking is not tolerated."
I'm still looking forward to the wording that will deal with the US DoD
Won't that fall under "legacy"...? Are we having this discussion under RIPE or under ARIN? :-))) Regards, Carlos
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