On 31-Aug-2013 7:20 PM, "Elvis Velea" <elvis@velea.eu> wrote:

Hi,

On 8/31/13 9:18 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

Nothing against all of romania

then maybe it would be a great idea to stop trowing rocks at it

but there appears to be more than one rogue operation there

Even better, use the RIPE NCC form and report the things you think are wrong with those /32s.. you probably know how to fill in a form, right?

[...] are now registering quite a lot of /32 v6 netblocks

you can only get one /32 per LIR, how many is quite a lot to you?

I have the feeling you exaggerate 'quite a bit' as there are (as it appears in the members list) _in total_ 45 members from Romania, out of each at least 5-10% belong to governmental agencies. You surely do not want to blame the Government for all the spam you receive, right?


So, I'd recommend you to stop blaming Romania for all the bad things happening in your life and look at the facts as well, Romanian LEADS the World IPv6 deployment and you are the only person in this community blaming everything you think is wrong unto Romania. Every country has it's own rogue companies, stop pointing fingers at only one.. you make everyone believe there is only one problem.

I'd recommend looking at your friends' site [1] and see who you should point fingers at, or look at all the statistics showing that India is fighting with USA for #1 spam country in the world.

I'd suggest that next time you want to say the words Romania and spam on a public mailing list to look first in your own garden.. it may be filled with rogue 'plants'

cheers,
Elvis

[1] http://www.spamhaus.org/statistics/countries/

--srs (htc one x)

On 31-Aug-2013 6:05 PM, "Elvis Velea" <elvis@velea.eu
<mailto:elvis@velea.eu>> wrote:

    Hi Suresh,

    Firstly, any member (LIR) can receive by default a /32 (up to a /29)
    ALLOCATION and NOT assignment. It's a /48 PI assignment that you can
    get if you are not an LIR.

    Secondly, @Suresh - have a look at who is leading the world in IPv6
    deployment and then you may want to be careful with trowing stones
    at Romania.
    Romania IS and has been for at least one year the leader in IPv6
    deployment in the whole world, if you are badmouthing Romania for
    it's spam, try to praise it for it's IPv6 deployment, that would be
    fair.

    My 2 cents,
    Elvis Daniel Velea (proud Romanian)


    On 8/31/13 7:11 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

        I was starting to wonder whether anybody else with an operational
        antispam and security role for a large provider was around here. :)

        Thanks for chiming in, vijay. At a guess those v6 /32s are all
        registered in Romania?

        --srs

        On Saturday, August 31, 2013, Vijay Eranti (✌ విజయ్ ఈరంటి) wrote:

             i agree with suresh's assessment.

             Lately lot of spammers are getting /32 ipv6 assignments
        with their
             own ASNs and having a nice run.
             The ipv4 allotment is seriously broken in ripe - just having
             paperwork with valid forms filled is good enough to allot
        what ever
             range the spammers can ask.

             regards
             vijay


             On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
             <ops.lists@gmail.com <mailto:ops.lists@gmail.com>
        <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
             'ops.lists@gmail.com <mailto:ops.lists@gmail.com>');>> wrote:

                 The lack of progress is simply because you have very
        few people
                 who are in a security rather than IP admin or network
        ops role.
                   Security as in for a seriously large provider.

                 The other lack of progress - well, changing entrenched
        policies,
                 or enforcing them beyond a point where the enforcer is
        reluctant
                 to investigate (or is it "play police" according to the
        local
                 meme) is as tough as it sounds.


                 On Friday, July 5, 2013, Frank Gadegast wrote:

                     Sascha Luck wrote:

                         TTBOMK, as long as policy requirements are
        fulfilled
                         there is no mandate to revoke resources.


                     Any spammer on this list (think so, simply because
                     of the lack of progress) ?

                     * Im starting now a second carrier in renting all
                     the IPv4 addresses left in our allocation exclusively
                     to abusers and make a lot of money with it.
                     Just make offers now. *

                     Will surely put a working abuse contact email address
                     in RIPEs db, that gets directed to /dev/null
                     and have a correct postal address somewhere on
                     a funny island ...

                     And it looks like if nobody could ever do anything
                     against it.

                     The current regulations are simply slippery as
                     an eel (like we say in Germany), no way
                     to catch anybody responsible. Again, ridicolous ...


                     Kind regards, Frank
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