El 23/3/19 23:40, "anti-abuse-wg en nombre de Ronald F. Guilmette" <anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net en nombre de rfg@tristatelogic.com> escribió: In message <6179dc11-f299-c076-0ae1-2f2d22eb6115@foobar.org>, Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> wrote: >If there were legislation and enforcement in this area, we wouldn't be >having this conversation. Yes, actually, we would. Agree Does anybody really believe that if, for example, Moldova outlawed BGP hijacking tomorrow *and* if they even started arresting suspects, that the entire problem would utterly disappear from the entire RIPE region the day after that? I think not. France? The Neatherlands? Sweden? No. No. No. There isn't a single european country whose laws can bring this plague to an end, nor even any subset of european countries. The problem no more respects national boundaries than does the influenza virus. There is one more reason for that. There is no way LEA can act against every hijack in a timely fashion (I'm thinking in making sure that cases are taking no more than 2-3 months average), same way that massive spam or data protection cases, are most of the time even *not* actually prosecuted by DPAs. Furthermore, I very much look forward to the day when one or more BGP hijackers... or *any* kind of cybercriminal for that matter... will be extradited from Russia to stand trial in some less friendly jurisdiction. But today is not that day. Regards, rfg ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.