* Suresh Ramasubramanian:
I thought we were talking about IP allocation, detecting shell companies and fake paperwork here, dave.
LLCs are so cheap to create in parts of the RIPE region that it's not worth bothering with forgeries. RIPE cannot discriminate against newcomers too much, that would be the end of self-regulation. (The current charging scheme, grossly favoring owners of older resources, is already quite problematic.) RIPE has to hand out the initial package of resources to any new LIR. Of course, the LIR might not exist past the first year, but that's plenty of time to recoup the (rather small) investment. Based on that, I think that any form of remediation has to come after the allocation, and RIPE NCC has to gather and evaluate intelligence on its own because trusting external sources opens the door to abuse. (There is precedent for that because some TLDs/registry providers do something like this.) Therefore, I think Kauto's questions about RIPE NCC processes in this area are very relevant. -- Florian Weimer <fweimer@bfk.de> BFK edv-consulting GmbH http://www.bfk.de/ Kriegsstraße 100 tel: +49-721-96201-1 D-76133 Karlsruhe fax: +49-721-96201-99