Hi, On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote:
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 10:41:00PM +0000, Carlos Friaas wrote:
there has been a trend in recent years to make RIPE policy that transforms the NCC from a resource registry into a political agency to monitor and prescribe the behaviour of the internet industry
Do you actually have any reference about that?
Read the address-policy and particularly the aawg archives. There have been a number of proposals such as the Europol one and the endless saga of the abuse-c: verification...
It wasn't "the Europol proposal". The co-author happens to work for Europol. Other Europol employees were able to disagree with the proposal if they wanted. You cannot determine if the author wasn't working for Europol, the same exact proposal wouldn't be issued, and if the author left Europol, that she wouldn't continue to support/work on the same exact proposal. That's a label, and i mostly disagree with doing that. In the same way, regarding 2019-03, i work for a NREN (the other co-author doesn't) and this is NOT an "NREN proposal". It's a proposal aimed at improving how the RIPE community deals with the specific issue of hijacking. About the abuse-c: verification, i understand that some people will prefer that abuse messages simply go into blackholes, although i feel more comfortable to see this "saga" as you label it, go forward in order to globally improve how things work. Sorry if that negatively affects some business models where frequent abuse is a pattern/feature. Carlos