Hello IP Abuse Research, Response to your questions, misunderstanding and false information at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/anti-abuse-wg/2020-May/005747.html ---- "Please refrain from attacking mods or claiming censorship w/o proof, provide logs or transparency into the issue or just state your case w/o personal attacks." ---- Please refrain from writing false information to the readers, do you want a proof of a censorship ? it sounds reasonable to you ? I need too use a different email address in order to reply to you. ---- "Do you have a draft RFC or any buy in from the IETF for your tracking packet proposal? Or is part of harnessing the power of the RIPE part of a larger campaign to alter the current process? When soliciting feedback, did any of the NIRs have pushback on this?" ---- The draft is in my head and will be implemented through a roundtable if I will be elected. ---- "Do Cisco, Juniper, Huawei and others have an estimate on how long it will take to develop the controls mentioned and integrate them / back port them? Are they willing to subsidize this upgrade or will this require public and private institutions around the world to update their BGP routers at their own expense?" ---- No commercial company wil subsidize anything, the goal is that only firmware updates will be needed without any hardware upgrade and that through community pressure - through the roundtable - the routing equipment manufaturers in the roundtable will do what they need to do (implementation of their firmware according to the specfiications). ---- "If this works you might should follow up with Bert Hubert to see if this solution can help fix the DNS Camel problem. I don't think he has explored this specific means of control." ---- Bert is a member of the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" (such as you are) and he is taking active actions for me not to be elected. He is against this solution because it came from me only because of his ego. ---- "Both of your plans mention a large centralized infrastructure run by the 5 RIRs which is managed "by regulated supervised Law Enforcement Agency (for example: Interpol) and not by an internet organization such as the RIRs or ccTLD registries." Is your proposal that we will create The Internet Police? Will they be overseen by the UN or the ITU?" ---- This is incorrect, it is a "centralized" infrastructure exactly as the root DNS servers are a "centralized" infrastructure - exactly the same and everyone are happy with the root DNS servers spread over the world. Regarding: "which is managed "by regulated supervised Law Enforcement Agency (for example: Interpol) and not by an internet organization such as the RIRs or ccTLD registries." This is a completele lie and you are intentioanlly taking sentences out of their context! In the email spam solution, the only part of Interpol is to be in charge only for setting which domains are criminal domains (phishing/malware/virus/etc), remotely through an API, without any access to the system - the reason that Interpol should set it and not the 5 RIR's is because Interpol is regulated and supervised according to law and in Interpol all the countries of the world is/should exist so Interpol will not act as a political organization against any non-member country. The reason Interpol is written and not Europol is also the same - so there will not be any case of few countries in Europol against another country not in the region of Europol (and capability of censorship, digital warfare, etc) - so no politics will be involved here. And this criminals domains list will not be used for agenda / politics / hidden interests (just like "The Spamhaus Project" are doing anonymously). In the anti-abuse methods solutions, the only part of Interpol is regarding creating the signed honeypot templates, that's it, without any access to the system. The reason is that honeypot hacking will cause criminal implications - so the honeypot template must be 100% reliable and created by an organization which is supervised and is regulated according to law - so there will not be false positives. ---- "When it comes to the body of the 5 RIRs, are the NIRs represented independently or do they maintain their own infrastructure?" ---- The two solutions will be managed only by the 5 RIR's, the bgp anycasted infrastructure can be spread over internet organizations worldwide which are not controlled by governments (and that these internet organizations are in countries with strict privacy laws, without experience of violating privacy laws and with democracies). Respectfully, Elad