On 9 Apr 2010, at 15:38, Frank Gadegast , Dipl-Inform. Frank Gadegast wrote:
But there are that many ...
There are only a handful that really matter and anyone who actually cares is probably monitoring them Combine that with the "feedback" loops from AOL / MSN etc., and you've covered pretty much anything of any real importance
If the community willing to accept, that RIPE members cause harm to other members without any consequences simply because they are lazy, uneducated, ignorant or without resources to prevent problem or maybe even because they provit or intended the problem ?
That isn't a question that can be answered with a simple yes / no It's a grey area For example, if you were to report an issue to us which involved our main mail cluster it would probably be dealt with within a few minutes to a couple of hours (depending on what it was) However, if you were reporting an issue involving an IP or range of IPs that are used by a client of ours with dedicated / colo or even IP transit then it may take a lot longer for the issue to be fully resolved. Does that mean that we are not acting responsibly in your view? Or do you understand that we cannot simply unplug a chunk of our network that quickly? Is the delay causing "harm" ? Probably. Is that "harm" a huge problem? That depends on what the "harm" is. Network abuse comes in many shapes and forms. Email abuse could be a simple commercial email that you did not want to get OR it could be a much more serious problem such as a phishing email
Does "free internet" means that we have to live with that ?
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