On Fri, 17 May 2019 20:20:39 -0700 "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg@tristatelogic.com> wrote:
In message <CALZ3u+ZoqY19n28-9ZNu8q2O+EZnjGLve1Ri1aCn90ThsrmDzw@mail.gmail.com> =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=B6ma_Gavrichenkov?= <ximaera@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 1:13 AM Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg@tristatelogic.com> wrote:
[..] IPv4 real estate
mangle your headers much?
rather top post. I think that you are again displaying your ignorance of the entire "top posting" for and against argument. - Yet, you have an opinion about it yourself. I will try to help you, although it is impossible sometimes to address ignorance. the whole thing about top posting or not, is all about the email conversation and about quoting and replying to multiple subjects in the same email thread. so, here is a working example of such a conversation, edited and created to illustrate the principles:
123@example.com said: 456@example.com said: 789@example.com said: I like coffee ooh, me too I hate the stuff myself
Now look at your email to the list? Do you see? anyway, use/get better software or maybe rather top post, if you care. now, to the IP property thing...
IP addresses are not property. Thinking otherwise results in hilariously bad engineering practices (and, in turn, hardly any better policy proposals). Do not do so. You are attempting to correct the Wrong Guy my friend. "Property" is not a term that *I* personally selected. It was mentioned on the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (arin-ppml) this week that some of the actual court filings in the suit and<snip> <snip>
It is you spreading and perpetuating the idea though, on this mailing list, so I do not understand why you are so scared of owning it. personally, I think that IP numbers (even ipv6 is finite) are resources that belong to everyone, but I do believe that even as resources, they are a form of property. Not intellectual property, but the same type of property as a crypto currency character string. bottom line is that insofar as all this relates to abuse, if general society would view an IP number as property this does affect abuse by and from an IP number in a number of legal ways as well. It also becomes much of a political thing as property rights in different RIPE regions are not exactly the same and even more diversity in other RIR and, to bring this back to 2019-04 Validation of abuse: imho the proposal needs some additional things added and some things better defined and other things changed...not going to rehash everything as we have all been reading. So, I am saying that I look forward to the next version. Andre