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From: Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, 10 April 2024 at 10:38
To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com>, Serge Droz <serge.droz@first.org>, anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net>
Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] LEA Transparency Report 2023

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LEA especially the computer crime part of LEA has been dealing with RIRs for some decades now?

The specifics of this case would be interesting.

--srs

From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Michele Neylon - Blacknight via anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2024 3:02:51 PM
To: Serge Droz <serge.droz@first.org>; anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net>
Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] LEA Transparency Report 2023

Serge

The report speaks about French LEA asking RIPE for data that RIPE does not have.

You then go off on some complete tangent about governments not being satisfied with tech companies.

How are the two related?

What purpose does asking RIPE (or anyone else) for data they simply do not have serve?

A much more rational explanation is that LEA simply do not understand what data RIPE (or others) have and that maybe the solution is to educate them.

I have heard from some in LEA that the amount of engagement from RIPE, ICANN etc., in the past couple of years has reduced, though that’s purely anecdotal.

Regards