On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 18:04:53 +0530
Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

The one takeaway i get from this seems to be that the bad guys are

perfectly aware of just where they can find loose or poorly

implemented security and abuse policies - who is incompetent, who is

malicious, who to abuse, who not to abuse

And action if any gets taken only after significant pressure is

applied.

true... as per the convo - easy to find a .ru upstream, etc.

But, it is becoming more obvious that before we can deal with anything
properly anyway, we need to be able to properly define what it is.

How can anyone expect anyone to implement proper abuse policies if
open society cannot even agree, openly, about what internet abuse even is?

Andre