Hi, On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 12:58:32PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
In message <20130627111402.GZ2706@Space.Net>, Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote:
Assume for the sake of argument that I received a /21 from some RIPE LiR one year ago. Assume that I never put _anything_ in it. Assume that RIPE NCC "audits" me. What happens, exactly?
If you got the /21 *from a LIR*, you will not be audited, because you're not dealing with the NCC.
If you *are* a LIR, and as that LIR have received a /21, the NCC will try to ensure that whatever you registered is OK
Please definie the meaning of "OK" in this context.
Technically OK, as in "no overlaps in the network objects", policy-wise OK, as in "no assignments bigger than permitted by your assignment window", and sometimes they ask for the justification documents for a given assignment, aka "the form that needs to be filled in".
if you have never registered anything, nothing will happen, unless they find lies in your contractual information (company doesn't exist, etc.) - in *that* case they will close down the LIR and take back the space.
So, if I am understanding you correctly, if, say, a given LIR obtained, say, a /17 two years ago, and then just sat on it, and never put a single thing in it in all that time, there is nothing that can or will be done about that colossal waste of (supposedly) precious IPv4 space. Is that correct? Have I understood you correctly?
Yes. (Though I disagree with you on the preciousness of IPv4 space. Reclaiming even a full /8 would have pushed out the IPv4 run-out in the RIPE region by a few months, but not changed the fundamental issue of "there is no way to make IPv4 last")
And likewise, if said hypothetical LIR obtained the same hypothetical /17 two years ago, and since that time has allocated it to a "customer" who then proceeded to fill it only with a single physical machine and on the order of 32,000 utterly phony baloney domain names, either for the purpose of snowshoe spamming or for the purpose of so-called "blackhat SEO", then there is nothing that anybody within RIPE, or within RIPE NCC, or anywhere in all the world either may or will do about that. Is that a correct interpretation of what you have said?
Yes. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279