I agree to keep it separate. -- Pavel On 20. 03. 19 10:45, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg wrote:
Hi Brian,
I'm fine moving that thread to NCC Services and I know how complex that will be.
So, repeating my question to all the participants here:
Can we agree at least that we should not have text regarding that in the policy proposal under discussion (also considering Brian input)?
I hope everybody understands my insistence on this as the authors need to have a clear community feeling on that for our new version.
Regards, Jordi
El 20/3/19 10:27, "anti-abuse-wg en nombre de Brian Nisbet" <anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net en nombre de brian.nisbet@heanet.ie> escribió:
Jordi,
> -----Original Message----- > From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of
> I can figure several possible ways to avoid that. > 1) Contractual (not sure if this can be done in a policy) changes to indicate > than in case of a policy violation, the account becomes frozen immediately, > until actions to close the account are completed. > 2) A modification to the transfers policy that indicates that no transfers can > be initiated if the any of the parties are involved in an investigation for policy > violation. > 3) A specific policy about implications of policy violations. > > If instead of that we want explicit text about that in this policy proposal, that > means possibly a way for slowing down the process, which at the time being > it seems to me there is a major agreement of favor of doing something. > Furthermore, having explicit text here means that other policy violations > need to have their own way, and I think we must have a single path for > resolving those issues, not one for each possible policy violation case. > > Does that make sense ? > > Can we agree that it will be better to have this discussion in a separate > thread/policy proposal, in order to avoid this to be a show-stopper for this > policy proposal? > > Would the chairs allow that thread in this list or suggest an alternative WG for > a possible policy proposal?
Good question, but I think that any policy dealing with changing how the NCC should react to policy violations will be... complex. I also don't think AA-WG is the right place for such a general policy. So if you, as the author, don't wish to insert it into your policy (and I can understand your reasoning fully), then I think a separate policy, likely pointed towards somewhere like NCC Services would be more apt.
I would caution that such things are likely to have a large interaction with/involvement of the NCC Membership, where such discussions have been very divided in the past. I think you and many other people are aware of this, but I just wanted to flag it.
Brian Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG
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