This is the RIPE anti-abuse WG - I was referring to our _network_ NOT a domain, either ours or anyone else's Regards Michele Mr. Michele Neylon Blacknight http://Blacknight.tel Via iPhone so excuse typos and brevity On 26 Jul 2012, at 15:27, "peter h" <peter@hk.ipsec.se> wrote:
On Wednesday 25 July 2012 17.39, "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" wrote:
Arnold Do a Whois lookup on any IP in As39122 You should see an abuse contact....
Yet we still get reports sent to accounts@ sales@ etc.,
Not that strange :
whois blacknight.tel Domain Name: BLACKNIGHT.TEL Domain ID: D591748-TEL Sponsoring Registrar: BLACKNIGHT INTERNET SOLUTIONS LTD Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 1448 Registrar URL (registration services): www.blacknight.com Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited Registrant ID: TUDHRH3SZ9DINEQF Registrant Name: Michele Neylon Registrant Organization: Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd Registrant Address1: Barrowside Business Park Registrant Address2: Unit 12a Registrant Address3: Sleaty Road Registrant City: Carlow Registrant State/Province: Co Carlow Registrant Postal Code: 000000 Registrant Country: Ireland Registrant Country Code: IE Registrant Phone Number: +353.599183072 Registrant Email: management@blacknight.ie Administrative Contact ID: TURPH7M0XB4O2DZO Administrative Contact Name: Michele Neylon Administrative Contact Organization: Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd Administrative Contact Address1: Barrowside Business Park Administrative Contact Address2: Unit 12a Administrative Contact Address3: Sleaty Road Administrative Contact City: Carlow Administrative Contact State/Province: Co Carlow Administrative Contact Postal Code: 000000 Administrative Contact Country: Ireland Administrative Contact Country Code: IE Administrative Contact Phone Number: +353.599183072 Administrative Contact Email: management@blacknight.ie Billing Contact ID: TURO0PYDHUERE11M Billing Contact Name: Michele Neylon Billing Contact Organization: Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd Billing Contact Address1: Barrowside Business Park Billing Contact Address2: Unit 12a Billing Contact Address3: Sleaty Road Billing Contact City: Carlow Billing Contact State/Province: Co Carlow Billing Contact Postal Code: 000000 Billing Contact Country: Ireland Billing Contact Country Code: IE Billing Contact Phone Number: +353.599183072 Billing Contact Email: management@blacknight.ie Technical Contact ID: TUJJC18TGSETV3QQ Technical Contact Name: Michele Neylon Technical Contact Organization: Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd Technical Contact Address1: Barrowside Business Park Technical Contact Address2: Unit 12a Technical Contact Address3: Sleaty Road Technical Contact City: Carlow Technical Contact State/Province: Co Carlow Technical Contact Postal Code: 000000 Technical Contact Country: Ireland Technical Contact Country Code: IE Technical Contact Phone Number: +353.599183072 Technical Contact Email: management@blacknight.ie Name Server: A0.CTH.DNS.NIC.TEL Name Server: D0.CTH.DNS.NIC.TEL Name Server: N0.CTH.DNS.NIC.TEL Name Server: S0.CTH.DNS.NIC.TEL Name Server: T0.CTH.DNS.NIC.TEL Created by Registrar: INJECTCSR Last Updated by Registrar: BLACKNIGHT INTERNET SOLUTIONS LTD Last Transferred Date: Wed Mar 02 23:46:19 GMT 2011 Domain Registration Date: Mon Mar 23 23:59:59 GMT 2009 Domain Expiration Date: Sat Mar 22 23:59:59 GMT 2014 Domain Last Updated Date: Wed Feb 15 15:43:42 GMT 2012 Registrar Fields
TrademarkRegistrationDate: 2006/10/26
Whois database was last updated on: Thu Jul 26 14:18:37 GMT 2012 <<<<
There is no "abuse" address for someone searching for "blacknight.tel"
Regards
Michele
Mr. Michele Neylon Blacknight http://Blacknight.tel
Via iPhone so excuse typos and brevity
On 25 Jul 2012, at 16:25, "Arnold" <wiegert@telus.net> wrote:
On 25/07/2012 6:52 AM, Frank Gadegast wrote:
"Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" wrote:
Hi all,
If they send reports to $random addresses they don't really deserve a response
Thats a true word for prefessionals, but not for not-so-skilled reporter, that are happy to find out, that there is something like RIPE and a whois showing them who is responsible for a resource, if they get abused. I have to agree with this. As a purely 'amateur' reporter, The WhoIs record is all I can rely on as an _officially_ published record to report my complaint. There are other ways, but none are as easy to use and as official.
If the people responsible for reducing SPAM won't do anything to make it easier by at least enforcing a proper abuse address in the expected and designated place, then it makes the job of reporting and reducing SPAM that much harder.
No matter what you will do, publishing any address opens the door to receiving SPAM, but ... why complain about it; use the information provided by this SPAM in the same way you expect any other user to use it - except you won't need me to report it to you :-)
Arnold
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