On 26/09/2016 09:31, Norman Diamond wrote:
Sorry I wasted time, but I don't even understand what Marilson is trying to suggest.
I'm not sure if anyone does. I certainly don't, despite their ongoing opinion that they understand all the dark motives behind everything I do. Anyway, Shane is, as he often is, essentially correct here. I would love to say that a policy could be written and that it would have a major effect, however I do not actually believe that. The real world, sadly, doesn't work like that. Shane raises some excellent questions and I would love to hear your opinions on them. I'd also love to hear what others, on both sides of the conversation, have to say about them. It is perhaps through such a dialogue, that, maybe, the beginnings of a policy might be made. As operators (and, of course, users) we stand between multiple forces. The good actors already feel they are doing what they can and, sadly, good abuse desks don't drag in customers. Law enforcement are looking over shoulders and while relations are excellent in many places, they don't make the laws that they have to enforce. And if operators don't seem to be doing anything, will that generate more laws? I really don't want to say "This will never happen." But unless we can come up with something sensible and workable, it won't. So I am not going to put the burden of this task on you, Norman, but nor can I take it up myself. I would love to hear your opinions, and those of others, and perhaps, baby-step by baby-step, we can continue to improve things, even if the end result is not what we envisaged in the beginning. Thanks, Brian