In either case the numbers will speak for themselves and any comments without seeing them are going to be premature. Never mind the RIPE NCC staff effort costing – does someone have numbers on the # of ASNs with invalid abuse-c information, and whether there are significant clusters of such ASNs downstream of individual ISPs / LIRs? --srs On 14/09/17, 5:56 PM, "Nick Hilliard" <nick@foobar.org> wrote: Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > I am sure an impact assessment would work – my point was that a lot > of the criticism so far has been jumping to conclusions over the > impact. That's not an unreasonable comment, but the flip side is also true: the policy makes an a-priori assumption that this is the best approach for dealing with abuse contact management in the circumstances, without providing or considering any evidence for or against. Nick