... This too.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Mark Foster</b> <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:blakjak@gmail.com">blakjak@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
Date: Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 9:54 AM<br>Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] How to Ask For A Website to Be taken Down, was How Not To Ask For A Website to Be taken Down<br>To: <a href="mailto:tk@abusix.com">tk@abusix.com</a><br><br>
<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/12/24 Tobias Knecht <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:tk@abusix.com" target="_blank">tk@abusix.com</a>&gt;</span><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">

Hi all,<br>
<div><br>
&gt; Does it make any sense to produce a RIPE document suggesting the proper<br>
&gt; way to report abuse?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; This document can be short &amp; sweet, just like the reports should be. A<br>
&gt; few good ideas are already in this thread: report to the right people,<br>
&gt; say the important bits up-front, and so on.<br>
<br>
</div>We are already working on a format, that is used by more and more<br>
people. It is meant as an extension to the well known RFC 5965 ARF.<br>
Called X-ARF. <a href="http://xarf.org" target="_blank">http://xarf.org</a><br>
<br>
Everybody who is interested in helping and using it, let us know and we<br>
can subscribe you to the mailinglist.<br>
<br>
Some tools are already available here: <a href="https://github.com/xarf" target="_blank">https://github.com/xarf</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div></div><div><br>Anything that makes reporting abuse harder for the victim, is counter-productive, IMHO.  <br>This to me is all an attempt to make abuse-complaint-receivers better equipped to use automation to deal with complaints.<br>

Noone who reports abuse likes talking to automation. <br><br>Mark.<br></div></div><br>
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