Hello, http://www.oecd.org/officialdocuments/displaydocumentpdf/?cote=dsti/doc%282010%295&doclanguage=en In short, in this long report, abuse handling is pinpointed as essential in cutting off spam & crimes (there are no cyber crimes, only crimes imho). Sounds like trivial to me, but who knows ? I guess some pressure is directed from OECD to RIR for an «improved» abuse handling :) This may be the LEA pressure we heard of on this list sooner and the reason it came back to life after years of sleeping. :P Since there is a bimodal distribution with very few ISP (50) accounting for 30% of spam and they suggest to target legitimate ISP. Europa (RIPE region) seems to be the region with the most infected big ISP (which is not correlated with volume)... * making the asumption that these 50 ISP have a poor abuse handling ; * remembering that RIPE IP handling is linked to the respect of the procedure and the quality (contractually) ; * observing that RIPE region is one of the most infected ; My question is : does RIPE have a responsability in this topic by not enforcing the «we shall not give you new IP» rules when ISP failed to handle their abuse ? sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?