On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 04:37:13PM -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
Same again. I am rather astonished that not a single person within a group focused on dealing with network abuse issues within the RIPE region can even say how to find the LIR that issued a given AS.
That is because LIRs do not "issue" (or assign) ASN resources. Had you bothered to read http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-525 and http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-452 , you would be closer to an understanding of the process to assign ASN resources to end-users.
So there is no trace... no chain of documentation on how an AS got to be an AS. Is that correct? Is that really what you are telling me?
It is not. There is a contract for every independent resource assigned after -525 came into force and when Phase 3 is completed, there will be contracts for legacy ASN/PI resources also. These contracts are confidential and not public information. On this side of the pond, we call it "data protection" and it is the law.
I want to know who registered a given AS. And I would like to know how they demonstrated that they were indeed who they said they were (and/or I'd like to know if the LIR even bothered to check).
Remember, I also asked this:
What sorts of credentials or bona fides must or should applicants who are requesting AS number allocations provide to the RIPE LIR which processes the request(s)?
This is laid down in http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-556 rgds, Sascha Luck