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ORG-OG2-RIPE -- plusserver.com / plusserver.de
by Ronald F. Guilmette 01 Apr '22

01 Apr '22

I just wanted to make you all aware that whereas most networks require any spam report to include the entire spam message, attempting to include an actual spam sample in an abuse report sent to ORG-OG2-RIPE aka plusserver.com results in an an undeliverable (5xx) bounce message contain text like the following: <abuse(a)plusserver.com>: host mx01.hornetsecurity.com[94.100.132.8] said: 554 5.6.3 Your mail contains SPAM. To unblock visit http://cloud-security.net/unblock?REDACTED (in reply to end of DATA command) Is is of course admirable that this network is able to accurately recognize -inbound- spam messages so accurately. It is rather a shame however that this network is apparently incapable of doing likewise when it comes to spam flowing outwards from their network. For reference, the fully aggregated set of IPv4 CIDRs currently assigned to this network within the RIPE region is as follows: 46.22.32.0/20 46.23.208.0/20 46.163.80.0/22 46.163.88.0/21 46.163.100.0/22 46.163.120.0/21 46.231.88.0/21 62.75.128.0/23 62.75.131.0/24 62.75.132.0/23 62.75.135.0/24 62.75.140.0/24 62.75.153.0/24 62.75.154.0/24 62.75.172.0/24 62.75.174.0/24 62.75.176.0/24 62.75.180.0/24 62.75.205.0/24 62.75.206.0/24 62.75.212.0/24 62.75.226.0/23 62.75.231.0/24 62.75.239.0/24 62.138.64.0/18 62.138.192.0/18 78.138.64.0/19 78.138.108.0/22 78.138.112.0/22 78.138.116.0/23 78.138.119.0/24 78.138.120.0/22 78.138.124.0/23 80.86.80.0/24 80.86.88.0/23 80.237.131.0/24 80.237.134.0/24 80.237.140.0/23 80.237.152.0/21 80.237.176.0/20 80.237.192.0/23 80.237.196.0/22 80.237.200.0/21 80.237.208.0/22 80.237.213.0/24 80.237.216.0/21 80.237.224.0/20 80.237.240.0/21 80.237.250.0/24 80.242.128.0/19 83.169.48.0/22 83.169.56.0/21 83.220.128.0/19 85.25.18.0/23 85.25.21.0/24 85.25.22.0/23 85.25.24.0/23 85.25.28.0/22 85.25.65.0/24 85.25.69.0/24 85.25.70.0/24 85.25.80.0/21 85.25.88.0/22 85.25.96.0/23 85.25.101.0/24 85.25.111.0/24 85.25.121.0/24 85.25.158.0/24 85.25.175.0/24 85.25.212.0/24 85.25.221.0/24 85.25.234.0/24 85.25.240.0/23 85.25.245.0/24 85.25.247.0/24 85.119.200.0/21 87.119.192.0/23 87.119.194.0/24 87.119.196.0/22 87.119.200.0/21 87.119.208.0/21 87.119.216.0/22 87.230.36.0/22 87.230.50.0/23 87.230.52.0/22 87.230.56.0/22 87.230.65.0/24 87.230.72.0/22 87.230.82.0/23 87.230.96.0/21 87.230.108.0/23 87.230.120.0/22 87.230.124.0/23 87.230.127.0/24 89.19.224.0/19 91.209.52.0/24 91.250.72.0/21 91.250.92.0/22 91.250.104.0/22 92.51.152.0/21 92.51.168.0/23 92.51.171.0/24 92.51.172.0/22 92.51.176.0/22 92.51.184.0/21 93.187.112.0/21 151.106.64.0/19 176.28.24.0/21 176.28.60.0/23 176.28.63.0/24 178.77.88.0/21 178.77.120.0/22 178.77.125.0/24 178.77.126.0/23 185.55.68.0/22 185.209.64.0/22 188.64.192.0/21 188.138.64.0/22 188.138.80.0/24 193.33.20.0/23 193.34.200.0/25 194.15.144.0/24 194.24.192.0/19 194.64.0.0/16 194.163.16.0/20 194.163.64.0/18 194.163.192.0/18 194.195.0.0/18 194.195.64.0/20 194.195.96.0/20 194.195.128.0/18 194.195.192.0/20 194.195.224.0/20 194.233.0.0/18 194.233.112.0/20 194.233.128.0/19 194.233.192.0/18 195.177.0.0/18 195.179.0.0/17 195.179.128.0/18 195.179.208.0/20 195.179.240.0/20 195.180.0.0/16 195.191.26.0/23 195.206.128.0/19 195.244.96.0/19 195.252.128.0/18 212.1.32.0/19 212.40.160.0/24 212.40.166.0/24 212.40.168.0/24 212.40.174.0/23 212.40.176.0/24 212.40.181.0/24 212.40.182.0/23 212.40.186.0/24 212.116.0.0/19 212.224.0.0/18 213.131.224.0/19 213.174.32.0/19 213.203.192.0/18 217.69.64.0/19 217.115.136.0/22 217.115.140.0/24 217.115.144.0/24 217.115.148.0/22 217.119.48.0/24 217.119.51.0/24 217.119.52.0/23 217.119.55.0/24 217.119.57.0/24 217.119.58.0/23 217.119.60.0/22 217.172.163.0/24 217.172.165.0/24 217.172.166.0/23 217.172.168.0/23 217.172.173.0/24 217.172.174.0/23 217.172.191.0/24

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RIPE NCC Open House: Anti-Abuse, 23 March, 11 UTC / 12 CET
by Gergana Petrova 23 Mar '22

23 Mar '22

Dear colleagues, The RIPE NCC will be hosting an Open House on Anti-Abuse on 23 March from 11:00-12:30 UTC / 12:00-13:30 CET. During the session, you will hear from two industry experts, Tobias Knecht, CEO at Abusix, and Dennis van Drunen, Senior Abuse Specialist at KPN, about how to run an effective abuse desk. There will be a discussion during which you can ask questions and share your own experiences and recommendations for best practices. Learn more and register at: https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/open-house/ripe-ncc-open-house-an… Feel free to share the link with colleagues who might find the event interesting. I hope to see you there! Kind regards, Gergana Gergana Petrova Community Development Manager RIPE NCC

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Call For Agenda Items - RIPE 84!
by Brian Nisbet 03 Mar '22

03 Mar '22

Colleagues, As you have hopefully seen, registration has now opened for RIPE 84 in Berlin - https://ripe84.ripe.net/ The meeting, running from the 16th - 20th May, will be a return to our hybrid style, but with the implementation of lots of the lessons learned from the last four online only meetings. The Anti-Abuse WG will be meeting and Markus, Tobias and I would invite people to submit topics for discussion, presentations for general enlightenment and, of course, work items for the working group. Speakers & presenters can either be present in Berlin or reaching us live via the Internet! The session is currently scheduled for Thursday 19th May, but the date and time may both change as the various agendas fill up, we'll keep you posted. As always you can reach us at aa-wg-chair(a)ripe.net Thanks, Brian Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG Brian Nisbet (he/him) Service Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet(a)heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270

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RIPE NCC Abuse Handling Training Call Minutes
by Markus de Brün 24 Feb '22

24 Feb '22

Colleagues, thank you all for participating in the call yesterday. Your input is very much appreciated! Evelien and Gerardo compiled some minutes, which you will find here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/18EemfujSbxUlAOyws1DCe-EE9KXIRqQAYrjFJyY… If you think any of your comments/points are missing, please let us know until March 4. Thanks again, Markus

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RIPE NCC Anti-Abuse Training: Next Steps & WG Input!
by Brian Nisbet 24 Feb '22

24 Feb '22

Colleagues, Since we last spoke about the proposed training the NCC have been working with various community members to put a draft syllabus in place for further discussion. This is a link to the feedback document for this draft: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M9Wrqu-VKGGwMfJQGK0NlTs5UzH6xJ2_HR2MkTB… What the NCC and the Co-Chairs would love is if everybody could just comment what they think they understand from the learning goals as they’re written and suggest any changes or additions and obviously ask any questions. We’d also like the feedback on the webinar flow design. It’s important for everybody to understand that the learning objectives are the basis for the training. These are the skills that the learner must acquire. With these skills we also expect a change of attitude towards abuse handling (which is we think the purpose of this training). While discussion on the list is welcomed and encouraged, we've also planned a Zoom session for any interested parties to discuss this further. This will take place on Wednesday 23rd February at 14:00 CET: https://ripe.zoom.us/j/8221791822?pwd=ZFY0MnNQeWJsTkhQSFlyeEZlUkNJQT09 Meeting ID: 822 179 1822 Passcode: 1277 Hopefully with discussion on list and at the session on the 23rd we can move this into a final draft and progress from there. Thanks, Brian Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG Brian Nisbet (he/him) Service Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet(a)heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270

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RIPE NCC Abuse Handling Training Call Reminder!
by Brian Nisbet 21 Feb '22

21 Feb '22

Colleagues, It's great to see the discussion on list on this topic, but I just wanted to remind people about the planned Zoom session for any interested parties to discuss this further. This will take place on Wednesday 23rd February at 14:00 CET: https://ripe.zoom.us/j/8221791822?pwd=ZFY0MnNQeWJsTkhQSFlyeEZlUkNJQT09 Meeting ID: 822 179 1822 Passcode: 1277 Looking forward to seeing people then! Brian Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG Brian Nisbet (he/him) Service Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet(a)heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270

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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Anti-Abuse Training: Next Steps & WG Input!
by JORDI PALET MARTINEZ 18 Feb '22

18 Feb '22

I don’t think we can, neither should, define what is abuse. Examples are ok, but should be clear that are only examples of common considered abuse activities and not necessarily inclusive/restrictive of all the possible situations. It all depends on the origin of the claim. Simple examples: In country “a”, unsolicited email maybe legally considered abuse, but not in the country “b” of the origin of that spam. You can even take out of the question the “legal” part, if you want. In country “c” attempt to ssh to hosts from other folks is a criminal action, but in country “d” (origin of the problem) is not. The problem here is to ensure that if you get a claim for a presumed abuse, you’re able to process it, even up to the point to say “sorry” in our jurisdiction or best current practices, or internal policy or AUP ... whatever, this is not an abuse so we can’t accept your claim, or otherwise, “we are handling it … we have resolved that this way”. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 10/2/22 10:25, "anti-abuse-wg en nombre de Brian Nisbet" <anti-abuse-wg-bounces(a)ripe.net en nombre de brian.nisbet(a)heanet.ie> escribió: Colleagues, Since we last spoke about the proposed training the NCC have been working with various community members to put a draft syllabus in place for further discussion. This is a link to the feedback document for this draft: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M9Wrqu-VKGGwMfJQGK0NlTs5UzH6xJ2_HR2MkTB… What the NCC and the Co-Chairs would love is if everybody could just comment what they think they understand from the learning goals as they’re written and suggest any changes or additions and obviously ask any questions. We’d also like the feedback on the webinar flow design. It’s important for everybody to understand that the learning objectives are the basis for the training. These are the skills that the learner must acquire. With these skills we also expect a change of attitude towards abuse handling (which is we think the purpose of this training). While discussion on the list is welcomed and encouraged, we've also planned a Zoom session for any interested parties to discuss this further. This will take place on Wednesday 23rd February at 14:00 CET: https://ripe.zoom.us/j/8221791822?pwd=ZFY0MnNQeWJsTkhQSFlyeEZlUkNJQT09 Meeting ID: 822 179 1822 Passcode: 1277 Hopefully with discussion on list and at the session on the 23rd we can move this into a final draft and progress from there. Thanks, Brian Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG Brian Nisbet (he/him) Service Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet(a)heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 -- To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/anti-abuse-wg ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.

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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Anti-Abuse Training: Next Steps & WG Input!
by Ángel González Berdasco 17 Feb '22

17 Feb '22

> And now that you mention it, are you sure that CSAM is illegal in 100% of the countries? Of course it's not. Or, CSAM itself might be illegal but the definition of 'CSAM', 'child' or 'abuse' varies, so the end result is still that X is illegal in country A but not in country B. See the variations of the age of consent around the world, which is sometimed further conditioned by things such as if the parties are married, their age difference (with again different values), if their relationship started when both were underage and other Romeo and Juliet exceptions. Almost every complication surrounding the definition of statutory rape will blur as well getting a common definition of CSAM. Luckily, the standard for taking it down is not whether they would really be prosecuted under who-knows-which jurisdiction but a more general interpretation included in the Terms of Use of the service. Best regards -- INCIBE-CERT - Spanish National CSIRT https://www.incibe-cert.es/ PGP keys: https://www.incibe-cert.es/en/what-is-incibe-cert/pgp-public-keys ==================================================================== INCIBE-CERT is the Spanish National CSIRT designated for citizens, private law entities, other entities not included in the subjective scope of application of the "Ley 40/2015, de 1 de octubre, de Régimen Jurídico del Sector Público", as well as digital service providers, operators of essential services and critical operators under the terms of the "Real Decreto-ley 12/2018, de 7 de septiembre, de seguridad de las redes y sistemas de información" that transposes the Directive (EU) 2016/1148 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 6 July 2016 concerning measures for a high common level of security of network and information systems across the Union. ==================================================================== In compliance with the General Data Protection Regulation of the EU (Regulation EU 2016/679, of 27 April 2016) we inform you that your personal and corporate data (as well as those included in attached documents); and e-mail address, may be included in our records for the purpose derived from legal, contractual or pre-contractual obligations or in order to respond to your queries. You may exercise your rights of access, correction, cancellation, portability, limitationof processing and opposition under the terms established by current legislation and free of charge by sending an e-mail to dpd(a)incibe.es. The Data Controller is S.M.E. Instituto Nacional de Ciberseguridad de España, M.P., S.A. More information is available on our website: https://www.incibe.es/proteccion-datos-personales and https://www.incibe.es/registro-actividad. ====================================================================

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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Proposal: Publish effective users' abuse-c
by Ángel González Berdasco 14 Feb '22

14 Feb '22

> This bit is not possible. The "abuse-c:" attribute is 'single'. So the > resource object can only ever reference one abuse contact. Thanks Denis. abuse-c arity is a point I was dubious about. Thus, it is not currently possible to publish an abuse-c with the customer address and keep the ISP copied at the same time, as desired. In order to know what is being sent thete, the ISP needs to provide its own address and (if appropriate) forward complaints received there to the customer. Best regards -- INCIBE-CERT - Spanish National CSIRT https://www.incibe-cert.es/ PGP keys: https://www.incibe-cert.es/en/what-is-incibe-cert/pgp-public-keys ==================================================================== INCIBE-CERT is the Spanish National CSIRT designated for citizens, private law entities, other entities not included in the subjective scope of application of the "Ley 40/2015, de 1 de octubre, de Régimen Jurídico del Sector Público", as well as digital service providers, operators of essential services and critical operators under the terms of the "Real Decreto-ley 12/2018, de 7 de septiembre, de seguridad de las redes y sistemas de información" that transposes the Directive (EU) 2016/1148 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 6 July 2016 concerning measures for a high common level of security of network and information systems across the Union. ==================================================================== In compliance with the General Data Protection Regulation of the EU (Regulation EU 2016/679, of 27 April 2016) we inform you that your personal and corporate data (as well as those included in attached documents); and e-mail address, may be included in our records for the purpose derived from legal, contractual or pre-contractual obligations or in order to respond to your queries. You may exercise your rights of access, correction, cancellation, portability, limitationof processing and opposition under the terms established by current legislation and free of charge by sending an e-mail to dpd(a)incibe.es. The Data Controller is S.M.E. Instituto Nacional de Ciberseguridad de España, M.P., S.A. More information is available on our website: https://www.incibe.es/proteccion-datos-personales and https://www.incibe.es/registro-actividad. ====================================================================

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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] [EXTERNAL] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 122, Issue 8
by Graeme Bunton 11 Feb '22

11 Feb '22

The naming community has spent a lot of time and energy trying to categorize online harms and put them inside or outside the purview of Registrars and Registries. gTLD Rrs and Rys have a consensus position (malware, botnets, pharming, phishing) but for many reasons other interests are always trying to expand that in various directions. My recommendation to this group is to put aside the edge cases and worry about them after you’ve made progress on core issues. Otherwise you risk burning valuable energy on endless and intractable definitional debates. What are the most prevalent 2 or 3 problems that have consensus? Focus on those, make a difference. Wade into the murkier waters when you’ve built more capacity and experience. Regards, Graeme -------------------- Graeme Bunton Director, DNS Abuse Institute 647-702-3323 https://dnsabuseinstitute.org/ From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces(a)ripe.net> on behalf of anti-abuse-wg-request(a)ripe.net <anti-abuse-wg-request(a)ripe.net> Date: Friday, February 11, 2022 at 05:15 To: anti-abuse-wg(a)ripe.net <anti-abuse-wg(a)ripe.net> Subject: [EXTERNAL] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 122, Issue 8 CAUTION: This email came from outside your organization. Don’t trust emails, links, or attachments from senders that seem suspicious or you are not expecting. Send anti-abuse-wg mailing list submissions to anti-abuse-wg(a)ripe.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/anti-abuse-wg<https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/anti-abuse-wg> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to anti-abuse-wg-request(a)ripe.net You can reach the person managing the list at anti-abuse-wg-owner(a)ripe.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of anti-abuse-wg digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: RIPE NCC Anti-Abuse Training: Next Steps & WG Input! (Laura Atkins) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 10:14:49 +0000 From: Laura Atkins <laura(a)wordtothewise.com> To: Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet(a)heanet.ie> Cc: "anti-abuse-wg(a)ripe.net" <anti-abuse-wg(a)ripe.net> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Anti-Abuse Training: Next Steps & WG Input! Message-ID: <05B5A3CD-D424-41C8-877C-B7A6F3BE9A5F(a)wordtothewise.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I?m going to try and make the call, but one thing that strikes me as important for any abuse training process is to call out different kinds of abuse online. There are things that are abuse of the internet. Abuse that harms the ability of the internet to work or for people to use the internet. Things like dDoS and spam and even phishing, mailbombing, etc. They are problems that affect a lot of people. Often we can use raw numbers of reports or complaints or traffic mapping to identify these kinds of abuses. We can usually point to objective measures and justify taking actions based on those objective measurements. They harm us collectively as a community and an infrastructure. There are those things that are abuse on the internet. This is people using internet services to harm individuals. Harassment and stalking and doxxing are examples of this. These are problems that are targeted at individuals. We can?t use raw numbers of reports or complaints or traffic mapping to identify these kinds of abuses. They are targeted at usually vulnerable or marginal individuals (or sometimes communities). In this case we don?t get the raw numbers of complaints, there?s not an objective measurement of harm. Taking action requires much more judgement on the part of the network owner. Then there are things I?ve not figured out a category for. Is it abuse to spread disinformation and propaganda campaigns? Is it abuse to sell snake oil and fear based on lies and propaganda? Is it abuse to organize a insurrectionist attack on a platform? Does the network owner have an obligation to shut down traffic? How do we tell the difference between good uprisings (Arab Spring) and bad uprisings? What do we do about Nazi and white supremacist websites that allow for actual scholarly and critical discussion of them? I certainly don?t have the answers. I think one of the learning goals should be to understand the scope and breadth of online abuse. Also making it clear what kinds of things operators must take action against and what responsibilities they have to the infrastructure and to individuals. We?re not law enforcement, but law enforcement hasn?t kept up with a lot of the abuse taking place on the internet. I think that is worthy of discussion. laura > On 10 Feb 2022, at 09:25, Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet(a)heanet.ie> wrote: > > Colleagues, > > Since we last spoke about the proposed training the NCC have been working with various community members to put a draft syllabus in place for further discussion. > > This is a link to the feedback document for this draft: > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M9Wrqu-VKGGwMfJQGK0NlTs5UzH6xJ2_HR2MkTB…<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M9Wrqu-VKGGwMfJQGK0NlTs5UzH6xJ2_HR2MkTB…> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M9Wrqu-VKGGwMfJQGK0NlTs5UzH6xJ2_HR2MkTB…<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M9Wrqu-VKGGwMfJQGK0NlTs5UzH6xJ2_HR2MkTB…>> > > What the NCC and the Co-Chairs would love is if everybody could just comment what they think they understand from the learning goals as they?re written and suggest any changes or additions and obviously ask any questions. We?d also like the feedback on the webinar flow design. > > It?s important for everybody to understand that the learning objectives are the basis for the training. These are the skills that the learner must acquire. With these skills we also expect a change of attitude towards abuse handling (which is we think the purpose of this training). > > While discussion on the list is welcomed and encouraged, we've also planned a Zoom session for any interested parties to discuss this further. This will take place on Wednesday 23rd February at 14:00 CET: > > https://ripe.zoom.us/j/8221791822?pwd=ZFY0MnNQeWJsTkhQSFlyeEZlUkNJQT09<https://ripe.zoom.us/j/8221791822?pwd=ZFY0MnNQeWJsTkhQSFlyeEZlUkNJQT09> <https://ripe.zoom.us/j/8221791822?pwd=ZFY0MnNQeWJsTkhQSFlyeEZlUkNJQT09<https://ripe.zoom.us/j/8221791822?pwd=ZFY0MnNQeWJsTkhQSFlyeEZlUkNJQT09>> > > Meeting ID: 822 179 1822 > Passcode: 1277 > > Hopefully with discussion on list and at the session on the 23rd we can move this into a final draft and progress from there. > > Thanks, > > Brian > Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG > > Brian Nisbet (he/him) > Service Operations Manager > HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network > 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland > +35316609040 brian.nisbet(a)heanet.ie <mailto:brian.nisbet@heanet.ie> www.heanet.ie <http://www.heanet.ie/<http://www.heanet.ie>> > Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 > -- > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/anti-abuse-wg<https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/anti-abuse-wg> <https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/anti-abuse-wg<https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/anti-abuse-wg>> -- The Delivery Experts Laura Atkins Word to the Wise laura(a)wordtothewise.com Email Delivery Blog: http://wordtothewise.com/blog<http://wordtothewise.com/blog>

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