April 2020 - anti-abuse-wg - mailman.ripe.net

RIPE NCC Executive Board election
by Ronald F. Guilmette 17 Apr '20

17 Apr '20

Greetings all, I know that all is not right with the world right now, and that most of you, like me, have much more pressing things on your minds right now, but someone just sent me the following link and I cannot exactly ignore it: https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2020/confirmed-ca… I would like to call everyone's attention to the last of the three candidates who have, it seems, "qualified" as candidates for open seats of the RIPE NCC Executive Board. As I have already said, I know that things are bad in the world right now, but I must ask this question: Is there really no one other than these three candidates who is willing and/or able to stand for the three open seats on the RIPE NCC Executive board... three open seats that will be voted on at the next general meeting, 13-15 May 2020 ? If not, then it seems that RIPE NCC will soon be following in the new tradition, established first by AFRINIC only last year, of placing well and widely known crooks on it board. I desperately hope it won't come to that, but that is not for me to decide. The decision is in your hands dear friends. Regards, rfg

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Fw: Re: @EXT: RE: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
by Javier Martín 17 Apr '20

17 Apr '20

Dear Sara. It is very interesting what you say, every day we have attacks and problems related to cyber attacks, where the only action we can do is protect ourselves, there is no mechanism to fight hackers, we always depend on the goodwill of other colleagues in Europe they handle abuse emails, which unfortunately most of the time is useless. Many times we have hackers perfectly located, many are kids with a lot of ability to annoy, but little to protect themselves (we often find them in forums) We need a direct route of contact, with guarantees that something can be done, something that is not at a political level, such as in this group, where ripe members can only collaborate with each other, but beyond that there is nothing that RIPE can do to help us in this situations. Kind regards. Javier [DIGITAL VALUE SL] Javier Martín Departamento de Gestión | DIGITAL VALUE SL tel: +34 963162089 [tel:+34 963162089] site: digitalvalue.es [http://digitalvalue.es] email: javier.martin(a)digitalvalue.es [mailto:javier.martin@digitalvalue.es] dirección: Av. Ausias March 104, bajo - 46026 - Valencia Sobre 17/04/2020 10:54:58, Marcolla, Sara Veronica <sara.marcolla(a)europol.europa.eu> escribió: Hi Maxi, Technical innovation can be harnessed for social good, but just as readily for nefarious ends. This is truer of cybercrime than of perhaps any other crime area. And cybercriminals are also getting more aggressive. That’s why Europol and its partner organisations are taking the fight to them on all fronts. Encouraging all members of the Internet community to join the fight against crime is one of the objectives of the Cybercrime centre, and working together with public-private partnerships is the best way to achieve these results. If you are interested, you can find out more on our official website: https://www.europol.europa.eu/crime-areas-and-trends/crime-areas/cybercrime [https://www.europol.europa.eu/crime-areas-and-trends/crime-areas/cybercrime]. Kind regards, Sara Marcolla Europol - O3 European Cyber Crime Centre (EC3) www.europol.europa.eu [http://www.europol.europa.eu/] From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces(a)ripe.net> On Behalf Of Maxi Sent: 17 April 2020 10:43 To: anti-abuse-wg(a)ripe.net Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Executive Board election Hey, Is this the official point of view from Europol? If so, please have in mind that the RIPE NCC has to follow certain court rules. The RIPE NCC should stay neutral, because only courts could decide if something is illegal or not. //Maxi Impressum: Zeug e.K. Hochstraße 15 92637 Theisseil Inhaber: Maximilian Schieder Telefon: 015678 572314 E-Mail: maxi(a)zeug.co [mailto:maxi@zeug.co] Registergericht: Amtsgericht Weiden in der Oberpfalz Registernummer: HRA 2907 ******************* DISCLAIMER : This message is sent in confidence and is only intended for the named recipient. If you receive this message by mistake, you may not use, copy, distribute or forward this message, or any part of its contents or rely upon the information contained in it. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the relevant e-mails from any computer. This message does not constitute a commitment by Europol unless otherwise indicated. *******************

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@EXT: RE: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
by Marcolla, Sara Veronica 17 Apr '20

17 Apr '20

Hi Maxi, Technical innovation can be harnessed for social good, but just as readily for nefarious ends. This is truer of cybercrime than of perhaps any other crime area. And cybercriminals are also getting more aggressive. That’s why Europol and its partner organisations are taking the fight to them on all fronts. Encouraging all members of the Internet community to join the fight against crime is one of the objectives of the Cybercrime centre, and working together with public-private partnerships is the best way to achieve these results. If you are interested, you can find out more on our official website: https://www.europol.europa.eu/crime-areas-and-trends/crime-areas/cybercrime. Kind regards, Sara Marcolla Europol - O3 European Cyber Crime Centre (EC3) www.europol.europa.eu<http://www.europol.europa.eu/> From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces(a)ripe.net> On Behalf Of Maxi Sent: 17 April 2020 10:43 To: anti-abuse-wg(a)ripe.net Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Executive Board election Hey, Is this the official point of view from Europol? If so, please have in mind that the RIPE NCC has to follow certain court rules. The RIPE NCC should stay neutral, because only courts could decide if something is illegal or not. //Maxi Impressum: Zeug e.K. Hochstraße 15 92637 Theisseil Inhaber: Maximilian Schieder Telefon: 015678 572314 E-Mail: maxi(a)zeug.co<mailto:maxi@zeug.co> Registergericht: Amtsgericht Weiden in der Oberpfalz Registernummer: HRA 2907 ******************* DISCLAIMER : This message is sent in confidence and is only intended for the named recipient. If you receive this message by mistake, you may not use, copy, distribute or forward this message, or any part of its contents or rely upon the information contained in it. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the relevant e-mails from any computer. This message does not constitute a commitment by Europol unless otherwise indicated. *******************

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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Executive Board election
by Maxi 17 Apr '20

17 Apr '20

Hey, Is this the official point of view from Europol? If so, please have in mind that the RIPE NCC has to follow certain court rules. The RIPE NCC should stay neutral, because only courts could decide if something is illegal or not. //Maxi Impressum: Zeug e.K. Hochstraße 15 92637 Theisseil Inhaber: Maximilian Schieder Telefon: 015678 572314 E-Mail: maxi(a)zeug.co Registergericht: Amtsgericht Weiden in der Oberpfalz Registernummer: HRA 2907

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@EXT: RE: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
by Marcolla, Sara Veronica 17 Apr '20

17 Apr '20

Dear all, I could not be more in agreement with you. We need to do something, and we need to do it as a community - perhaps this time of confinement can be used for us to shape the discussion and try to find concrete and actionable points where we can jointly work for an improvement of the Internet in our region. Curbing abuse and leaving less space for criminals and miscreants to exploit the weaknesses of our systems should be a higher value than making profit: maybe it is the time to discuss a voluntary code of conduct that can be acting as "corporate social responsibility" and can be embraced by those members and operators that are willing to step up in their fight against crime? Kind regards, Sara Marcolla Europol - O3 European Cyber Crime Centre (EC3) www.europol.europa.eu -----Original Message----- From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces(a)ripe.net> On Behalf Of Tõnu Tammer via anti-abuse-wg Sent: 17 April 2020 09:10 To: anti-abuse-wg(a)ripe.net Cc: Heli Tiirmaa-Klaar <Heli.Tiirmaa-Klaar(a)mfa.ee> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Executive Board election Dear friends, Every member of the community, who is on the receiving end of abuse, feels that something should be done! I reiterate what I have said before: this is just one example of how todays' approach in handling abuse or designing anti-abuse policy is not really working. I am not the only one who has realised that this community seems not to agree anything. That is perfectly understandable. When once there was just academia who drove the development of internet, now the community has grown encompassing legitimate business but also abusers who have become part of that community. We can always find reasons (justified or not) on why not to do anything or change anything but we have to understand that impact of not doing anything will continue to grow. Already number of countries argue rightly that the multi-stakeholder approach is not working. And that is all too true. The reasons why they want to change are likely not driven by the fact current approach is not working but something more serious. We have to stop fuelling the arguments that decentralised model is not delivering. If we continue as we have, we will have changes forced upon us (thing we have turned down so far) but its likely that more will come and things, we would not be happy to see at all. -- Tõnu Tammer CERT-EE juht / Executive Director of CERT-EE Riigi Infosüsteemi Amet / Estonian Information System Authority Email: tonu(a)cert.ee Mobile: +372 53 284 054 Web: https://cert.ee PGP:0x77A8997 / 9477 6B86 6A1E 849B C456 46D6 9CA8 9E41 77A8 997B ******************* DISCLAIMER : This message is sent in confidence and is only intended for the named recipient. If you receive this message by mistake, you may not use, copy, distribute or forward this message, or any part of its contents or rely upon the information contained in it. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the relevant e-mails from any computer. This message does not constitute a commitment by Europol unless otherwise indicated. *******************

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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Massive prefix theft in AFRINIC - attributed to an insider
by Michele Neylon - Blacknight 15 Apr '20

15 Apr '20

Great work from Ron Sad to see this happen, though it was to be expected considering how much IPs are now worth -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 On 04/12/2019, 19:43, "anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Suresh Ramasubramanian" <anti-abuse-wg-bounces(a)ripe.net on behalf of ops.lists(a)gmail.com> wrote: Congratulations, Ron Guilmette. You’ve been doing this for years and this is your biggest success yet. https://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/330379-how-internet-resources-worth… tl;dr - The insider is apparently Ernest Byaruhanga, AFRINIC employee #2, and he has now separated from AFRINIC --srs

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New on RIPE Labs: What COVID-19 Means for Network Security
by Mirjam Kuehne 03 Apr '20

03 Apr '20

Dear colleagues, In this article, Gary Stevens takes a look at ways that the COVID-19 pandemic is changing network security: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/gary_stevens_1/what-covid-19-means-for-networ… Kind regards, Mirjam Kühne RIPE NCC

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