Re: [address-policy-wg] [Ticket#2012092701011684] FW: Sub-allocations - fast and simple re-using IP-addresses
Hi,
Lets check RIPE-530:
Re-allocation must be reflected in the RIPE Database. This re-allocation may be on either a permanent or non-permanent basis. LIRs that receive a re-allocation from another LIR cannot re-allocate complete or partial blocks of the same address space to another LIR within 24 months of receiving the re-allocation.
For temporary transfer we make 2 transfers: 1. from LIR A to LIR B. .... 2. Form LIR B to LIR A (back). While address space may not transfer it on within 24 months, so we can't transfer back earlier than in 2 years.
Ah, there is the misunderstanding. Giving back the address space is not a separate transfer. It's part of the original (temporary) transfer. This rule is only to prevent people from selling addresses on. - Sander
Dear Sander,
Ah, there is the misunderstanding. Giving back the address space is not a separate transfer. It's part of the original (temporary) transfer. This rule is only to prevent people from selling addresses on.
I understund this idea. I think it will be great to write that rule ( ... 24 months of receiving... ) work only for permanent transfers. Whyle formaly for now it is for any transfers. -- Kind regards, Alexey Ivanov LeaderTelecom B.V. 15.10.2012 12:22 - Sander Steffann написал(а): Hi, Lets check RIPE-530:
Re-allocation must be reflected in the RIPE Database. This re-allocation may be on either a permanent or non-permanent basis.
LIRs that receive a re-allocation from another LIR cannot re-allocate complete or partial blocks of the same address space to another LIR within 24 months of receiving the re-allocation.
For temporary transfer we make 2 transfers: 1. from LIR A to LIR B. .... 2. Form LIR B to LIR A (back). While address space may not transfer it on within 24 months, so we can't transfer back earlier than in 2 years. Ah, there is the misunderstanding. Giving back the address space is not a separate transfer. It's part of the original (temporary) transfer. This rule is only to prevent people from selling addresses on. - Sander
Ah, there is the misunderstanding. Giving back the address space is not a separate transfer. It's part of the original (temporary) transfer. This rule is only to prevent people from selling addresses on.
I understund this idea. I think it will be great to write that rule ( ... 24 months of receiving... ) work only for permanent transfers. Whyle formaly for now it is for any transfers.
Yes, if you receive address space through a transfer the RIPE policy will not let you re-sell it within 24 months. When you have a temporary transfer the contract you have with the original holder will probably prohibit any re-selling at all. But again: giving back the addresses to the original holder is not a separate transfer, it's part of the original transfer, so the 24 month restriction doesn't even apply to giving back the address space. It's only about a potential *new* transfer. - Sander
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