Hi, On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 04:52:29PM +0100, Bernd Sontheimer wrote:

But i don't see that every RIPE member has to pay exactly the same part as all others. In the beginning we had different registry sizes, XS, S, M and L with different fees, according to the hold address space. I think this can and should reflect the different amount of work for maintenance and services according to the member size. Why is this no longer possible? Why do we as an operator with 10000 customers exactly the same fee as one with 10 Mio. customers and much more adress space (and much more revenue)? I think fair would be a base fee for every member and an additional fee which is variable depending on the size of the hold adress space. That has nothing to do with "selling address" space, but shares only the yearly cost proportional according to the size of the members.

Not necessarily disagreeing with you that there might be good arguments for "who pays not so much" vs. "who pays more". Now, I doubt that a large carrier that has everything automated causes as much cost at the NCC as a new LIR that opens a support ticket twice a month... so, shall the new LIR pay twice the amount that DTAG pays? But anyway: as Jim Reid correctly remarked, this is a different thread, *and* doesn't belong into APWG anyway. Fees are a member business, and need to be voted on in the member meeting (AGM) and discussed on the ripe-members list. So: please stop this particular sub-discussion on the APWG list. Gert Doering -- APWG chair -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279