Update on AS Number Assignments - Transitioning to Policy Compliance
Dear colleagues, During the RIPE 87 Address Policy working group session yesterday, I presented the topic of AS Number assignments, specifically addressing a policy in place since 2010. According to this policy, assignments should be made from an undifferentiated 32-bit AS Number allocation pool. https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-679#ASnumbers Before this policy became active in 2010, the Address Policy WG recognized that many providers were not ready to exclusively work with 32-bit ASNs, mostly due to technical constraints. A verbal consensus in 2009 suggested that the RIPE NCC would temporarily continue using two pools of 16-bit and 32-bit AS Numbers. The plan was to attempt to extend the global policy by 12 months, but this effort was never undertaken. To date, the RIPE NCC remains the only Regional Internet Registry (RIR) employing this temporary approach. Observing that other RIRs have successfully issued AS Numbers from an undifferentiated pool for many years without technical challenges for operators, the RIPE NCC plans to phase out the current temporary approach. The intention is to align with the policy and issue AS Numbers accordingly. No objections were raised during the working group session. However, for transparency, we want to inform working group members who couldn't attend the RIPE meeting. The presentation can be viewed here: https://youtu.be/Zoq4PpqlaK4?t=1797 Kind regards, Marco Schmidt Manager Registration Services RIPE NCC
Dear colleagues, In November 2023, I shared with you during the RIPE meeting and on this mailing list that the RIPE NCC intends to assign Autonomous System Numbers (ASNs) from an undifferentiated 32-bit AS Number pool, as defined in the Autonomous System (AS) Number Assignment Policies. I am pleased to inform you that this change has been successfully implemented. The option to choose between a 16-bit or 32-bit AS Number as been removed. When submitting a request, the RIPE NCC will assign the next available AS Number from the undifferentiated allocation pool. Kind regards, Marco Schmidt Manager Registration Services RIPE NCC On 30/11/2023 16:40, Marco Schmidt wrote:
Dear colleagues,
During the RIPE 87 Address Policy working group session yesterday, I presented the topic of AS Number assignments, specifically addressing a policy in place since 2010. According to this policy, assignments should be made from an undifferentiated 32-bit AS Number allocation pool. https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-679#ASnumbers
Before this policy became active in 2010, the Address Policy WG recognized that many providers were not ready to exclusively work with 32-bit ASNs, mostly due to technical constraints. A verbal consensus in 2009 suggested that the RIPE NCC would temporarily continue using two pools of 16-bit and 32-bit AS Numbers. The plan was to attempt to extend the global policy by 12 months, but this effort was never undertaken. To date, the RIPE NCC remains the only Regional Internet Registry (RIR) employing this temporary approach.
Observing that other RIRs have successfully issued AS Numbers from an undifferentiated pool for many years without technical challenges for operators, the RIPE NCC plans to phase out the current temporary approach. The intention is to align with the policy and issue AS Numbers accordingly.
No objections were raised during the working group session. However, for transparency, we want to inform working group members who couldn't attend the RIPE meeting. The presentation can be viewed here: https://youtu.be/Zoq4PpqlaK4?t=1797
Kind regards, Marco Schmidt Manager Registration Services RIPE NCC
On Thu, 25 Jan 2024, Marco Schmidt wrote:
Dear colleagues,
In November 2023, I shared with you during the RIPE meeting and on this mailing list that the RIPE NCC intends to assign Autonomous System Numbers (ASNs) from an undifferentiated 32-bit AS Number pool, as defined in the Autonomous System (AS) Number Assignment Policies.
I am pleased to inform you that this change has been successfully implemented. The option to choose between a 16-bit or 32-bit AS Number as been removed. When submitting a request, the RIPE NCC will assign the next available AS Number from the undifferentiated allocation pool.
Hi, could you please elaborate on what this "undifferentiated 32-bit AS Number pool" is? I'm mainly curious if it means we'll deplete 16 bit ASNs (allocate from the lowest available number)? Thanks. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
Hello Mikael and colleagues, Thank you for the question, and I'm happy to provide clarification. At present, we assign the highest available ASN from our undifferentiated pool, but we are planning to adopt a more randomized approach in the future. As a result, there will be no depletion of the lower digit (16-bit) ASNs anytime soon. Kind regards, Marco Schmidt Manager Registration Services RIPE NCC On 25/01/2024 16:07, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jan 2024, Marco Schmidt wrote:
Dear colleagues,
In November 2023, I shared with you during the RIPE meeting and on this mailing list that the RIPE NCC intends to assign Autonomous System Numbers (ASNs) from an undifferentiated 32-bit AS Number pool, as defined in the Autonomous System (AS) Number Assignment Policies.
I am pleased to inform you that this change has been successfully implemented. The option to choose between a 16-bit or 32-bit AS Number as been removed. When submitting a request, the RIPE NCC will assign the next available AS Number from the undifferentiated allocation pool.
Hi,
could you please elaborate on what this "undifferentiated 32-bit AS Number pool" is?
I'm mainly curious if it means we'll deplete 16 bit ASNs (allocate from the lowest available number)?
Thanks.
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Marco Schmidt
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Mikael Abrahamsson