+1 I support this proposal and hope that if it passes, policymakers at ARIN take note of the fact that both registries who have reached exhaust have recognized that removing the needs test from transfers is completely compatible with the ideals of stewardship. We know that APNIC was browbeaten into restoring the needs test in order to tap the ARIN market. There will be similar pressure applied to RIPE, I am sure, but for my part I will pressure ARIN to remove its needs test for transfers as the best way to facilitate a global market in IPv4 address space. RIPE's implementation of 2013-03 would assist in that effort. Regards, Mike Burns IPTrading.com -----Original Message----- From: Donal Cunningham Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 9:54 AM To: address-policy-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] 2013-03 New Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (No Need - Post-Depletion Reality Adjustment and Cleanup) +1 - I support this proposal. D. -- IP Network Engineer, AirSpeed Telecom dcunningham@airspeed.ie : +353 1 428 7531

John, You know I am the author of the current ARIN transfer policy. Why clutter the RIPE list with this nonsense? I voiced my support of 2013-03 and addressed the counter-argument related to inter-regional transfers. This will end my replies. Regards, Mike -----Original Message----- From: John Curran Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 12:34 PM To: Mike Burns Cc: address-policy-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] 2013-03 New Draft Document and ImpactAnalysis Published (No Need - Post-Depletion Reality Adjustment and Cleanup) On Sep 25, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Mike Burns <mike@iptrading.com> wrote:

+1 I support this proposal and hope that if it passes, policymakers at ARIN take note of the fact that both registries who have reached exhaust have recognized that removing the needs test from transfers is completely compatible with the ideals of stewardship. We know that APNIC was browbeaten into restoring the needs test in order to tap the ARIN market. There will be similar pressure applied to RIPE, I am sure, but for my part I will pressure ARIN to remove its needs test for transfers as the best way to facilitate a global market in IPv4 address space. RIPE's implementation of 2013-03 would assist in that effort.

Mike - It's probably best to address those in the community interested in ARIN policy (i.e. "policymakers at ARIN") via the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ppml); that's where policy-related ideas and issues surrounding ARIN policies are discussed by the community, and hence where such notice should be made. To submit a policy proposal for discussion, please follow the directions here - <https://www.arin.net/participate/how_to_participate.html> (Any folks in the RIPE community interested in such discussions are quite welcome to participate on the ppml mailing list.) Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN