I had to look it up in the Apricot APNIC archive of 2015, but the actual bit that I am referring to is the following : http://youtu.be/2iKK_8iJU6E where Andrea Chima from RIPE NCC is explaining the inter-RIR transfer policy on stage ( around 1:17 ) ... And Paul Wilson from APNIC is starting at 1:24 upto 1:35 at the mic on the topic. Regards, Erik Bais

Op 30 sep. 2015 om 21:05 heeft Erik Bais - A2B Internet <ebais@a2b-internet.com> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Nikolas,

Thank you for the work and this update.

Could you or Marco perhaps provide a quick update on what the current status is in the inter-rir transfer status between APNIC and RIPE region, after the APNIC exec-board announced that it would hold transfers until further notice earlier this year ...

Regards, Erik Bais

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Op 30 sep. 2015 om 16:51 heeft Nikolas Pediaditis <nikolas.pediaditis@ripe.net> het volgende geschreven:

Dear colleagues,

We are pleased to announce that we have implemented the policy proposal 2014-05, "Policy for Inter-RIR Transfers of Internet Resources".

In accordance with the new policy, Internet number resources can be transferred between resource holders in the RIPE NCC service region and resource holders in the service regions of other Regional Internet Registries (RIRs).

Inter-RIR transfers are possible between RIRs with compatible policies. Currently, ARIN and APNIC are the only RIRs that can perform inter-RIR transfers with the RIPE NCC:

- IPv4 addresses can be transferred to/from the ARIN service region - IPv4 addresses and AS Numbers can be transferred to/from the APNIC service region

The main web page on inter-RIR transfers with the supporting documentation and all related information to get you started can be found at: https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/tran...

The archived policy proposal can be found at: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2014-05

The RIPE Document, "Policy for Inter-RIR Transfers of Internet Resources", is available at: https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-644

Kind regards,

Nikolas Pediaditis RIPE NCC Registration Services

* Nikolas Pediaditis <nikolas.pediaditis@ripe.net>

The moratorium that the APNIC EC had set for inter-RIR transfers with the RIPE NCC has been officially lifted as of early September and it was announced during APNIC 40.

The transcript of the APNIC 40 AMM session is available at: https://conference.apnic.net/data/40/10-Sept-AMM.txt

Here is the quotation with regard to this matter:

"Inter-RIR transfer policy: it was one of the items which the Executive Council decided previously. We had a moratorium for the inter-RIR transfer with RIPE NCC, but at this time in the Executive Council meeting on Monday, we decided to resolve to lift -- that means discontinue -- the temporary moratorium on the inter-RIR transfers with RIPE NCC. That is the reaction that RIPE NCC recently set the new inter-RIR transfer policy to require the recipient of the transfer from the other RIR region which has the demonstrated need policy. So that helped us to lift this moratorium. So now you can transfer the IPv4 address, if you need it, with someone in the RIPE NCC region."

There is also the video version available (at 58:38): https://conference.apnic.net/40/program#sessions/amm

Therefore inter-RIR transfers of IPv4 and ASNs are possible between resource holders in the APNIC and RIPE regions. Both RIRs will be cooperating in accordance with their policies.

Nicholas, Thank you for the update. I hope you can clarify one thing for me, which I find the APNIC and RIPE communites' policies to be crystal clear about, but given the above quote as well as the phrasing in section IV of ripe-651 I am not so sure about the actual implementation. It's a simple yes or no question: If there is a transfer from the APNIC region to the RIPE region, will the RIPE region recipient required to «provide a plan to the RIPE NCC for the use of at least 50% of the transferred resources within 5 years»? Tore

Thanks for the update Nikolas. Erik Bais Van: address-policy-wg [mailto:address-policy-wg-bounces@ripe.net] Namens Nikolas Pediaditis Verzonden: donderdag 1 oktober 2015 11:16 Aan: Erik Bais - A2B Internet <ebais@a2b-internet.com> CC: address-policy-wg@ripe.net Onderwerp: Re: [address-policy-wg] Policy Proposal Implemented: 2014-05, "Policy for Inter-RIR Transfers of Internet Resources" Hi Erik, The moratorium that the APNIC EC had set for inter-RIR transfers with the RIPE NCC has been officially lifted as of early September and it was announced during APNIC 40. The transcript of the APNIC 40 AMM session is available at: https://conference.apnic.net/data/40/10-Sept-AMM.txt Here is the quotation with regard to this matter: "Inter-RIR transfer policy: it was one of the items which the Executive Council decided previously. We had a moratorium for the inter-RIR transfer with RIPE NCC, but at this time in the Executive Council meeting on Monday, we decided to resolve to lift -- that means discontinue -- the temporary moratorium on the inter-RIR transfers with RIPE NCC. That is the reaction that RIPE NCC recently set the new inter-RIR transfer policy to require the recipient of the transfer from the other RIR region which has the demonstrated need policy. So that helped us to lift this moratorium. So now you can transfer the IPv4 address, if you need it, with someone in the RIPE NCC region." There is also the video version available (at 58:38): https://conference.apnic.net/40/program#sessions/amm Therefore inter-RIR transfers of IPv4 and ASNs are possible between resource holders in the APNIC and RIPE regions. Both RIRs will be cooperating in accordance with their policies. Kind regards, Nikolas Pediaditis RIPE NCC Registration Services On 30 Sep 2015, at 23:50, Erik Bais - A2B Internet <ebais@a2b-internet.com <mailto:ebais@a2b-internet.com> > wrote: I had to look it up in the Apricot APNIC archive of 2015, but the actual bit that I am referring to is the following : http://youtu.be/2iKK_8iJU6E where Andrea Chima from RIPE NCC is explaining the inter-RIR transfer policy on stage ( around 1:17 ) ... And Paul Wilson from APNIC is starting at 1:24 upto 1:35 at the mic on the topic. Regards, Erik Bais Op 30 sep. 2015 om 21:05 heeft Erik Bais - A2B Internet <ebais@a2b-internet.com <mailto:ebais@a2b-internet.com> > het volgende geschreven: Hi Nikolas, Thank you for the work and this update. Could you or Marco perhaps provide a quick update on what the current status is in the inter-rir transfer status between APNIC and RIPE region, after the APNIC exec-board announced that it would hold transfers until further notice earlier this year ... Regards, Erik Bais Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad Op 30 sep. 2015 om 16:51 heeft Nikolas Pediaditis <nikolas.pediaditis@ripe.net <mailto:nikolas.pediaditis@ripe.net> > het volgende geschreven: Dear colleagues, We are pleased to announce that we have implemented the policy proposal 2014-05, "Policy for Inter-RIR Transfers of Internet Resources". In accordance with the new policy, Internet number resources can be transferred between resource holders in the RIPE NCC service region and resource holders in the service regions of other Regional Internet Registries (RIRs). Inter-RIR transfers are possible between RIRs with compatible policies. Currently, ARIN and APNIC are the only RIRs that can perform inter-RIR transfers with the RIPE NCC: - IPv4 addresses can be transferred to/from the ARIN service region - IPv4 addresses and AS Numbers can be transferred to/from the APNIC service region The main web page on inter-RIR transfers with the supporting documentation and all related information to get you started can be found at: https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/tran sfers/inter-rir-transfers The archived policy proposal can be found at: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2014-05 The RIPE Document, "Policy for Inter-RIR Transfers of Internet Resources", is available at: https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-644 Kind regards, Nikolas Pediaditis RIPE NCC Registration Services